GreekIslandGirl wrote:erolz66 wrote: .... It contains all the Press Releases of the Commission. The press release I gave the link to , from the official EU Commission website was written by and released by the European Commission.
Oh yeah? Because it actually states:
So now you are quoting to me from the source that you first tried to dismiss as being from an 'EU debate site' but is in fact the official website of the EU Commission itself !
GreekIslandGirl wrote:The draft report – which is not public – is based on unannounced site visits to the Greek-Turkish land border and to Chios and Samos conducted from 10 to 13 November 2015.
Classic GiG distortion. The draft report is not public - entirely correct. However the conclusions of that non public draft report ARE public, they became public as soon as the EU Commission issued a public press release stating what the conclusion of this non public draft report were. It is all there is plain black and white text direct from the EU commission itself. First you say this was not from the EU commission but from an 'EU debate site' (patently not true), now you try and make out that the conclusions of this report as publicly reported by the EU commission itself in its own press release is 'not true'. This is exactly the kind of madness you descend into in your pathetic attempts to deny objective reality.
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Straw man erolz - you stated the EU Commission has threatened sanctions and yet have found ZERO evidence to support why you are constructing, promoting and perpetuating what are now clearly lies!
The EU commission puts out a press release about a meeting that took place on the 26 Jan 2015 in which they publicly announce that the conclusions of a prior draft report are that "Greece is seriously neglecting its obligations and that there are serious deficiencies in the carrying out of external border controls that must be overcome and dealt with by the Greek authorities." In the same public press release they also make a point of highlighting that "If a Schengen Evaluation Report concludes that the evaluated Member State is "seriously neglecting its obligations under the Schengen rules" and if there are "serious deficiencies in the carrying out of external border control", the Commission can propose recommendations, to be adopted by the Council, for remedial action to address any deficiencies identified during the evaluation." What is more they then go on to say "Where, after three months, serious deficiencies persist and the measures taken have not proved sufficient to ensure the adequate remedy of these deficiencies, the Commission may trigger the application of the procedure provided for in Article 26 of the Schengen Borders Code."
In response to this EU commission press release you then have the
BBC reporting "EU threatens Greece over border controls"
Cyprus mail reporting "Greece threatened with expulsion from Schengen over migration crisis"
Irish Times reporting "Greece given three months to avoid Schengen suspension. Athens has ‘seriously neglected its obligations’ over border controls and migration, says European Commission"
Guardian reporting "Greece hits back after EU's Schengen threat"
Independent reporting "Schengen: Greece warned it faces expulsion from passport-free zone. Schengen: Greece warned it faces expulsion from passport-free zone
European Commission report exposes 'serious deficiencies' in how nation guards EU frontiers from migrants"
Despite all this you try and claim there zero evidence that the EU commission has threaten Greece with sanctions and that I am a lier and am making all this up. This is exactly the kind of madness you specialise in GiG, that you have always specialised in.
And then you have the gall to claim
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Straw man erolz
by quoting pages and pages of irrelevance from
GreekIslandGirl wrote:In fact the 8th biannual evaluation that this is all based on states only this about Greece:
This was a meeting that took place on the 15th of December 2015. It was the EU Comission's press release of the results of the 26 Jan 2016 meeting in which they stated the draft report concluded that ""Greece is seriously neglecting its obligations and that there are serious deficiencies in the carrying out of external border controls that must be overcome and dealt with by the Greek authorities." and in which they publicly outlined what sanctions are available to them should Greece fail to address these deficiencies within 3 months.
It is THIS meeting on the 26th Jan 2016 and the EU press release following it that then led to an avalanche of newspaper reports stating "EU threatens Greece over border controls". That you try and post pages and pages of irrelevances from an entirely different meeting that took place weeks before and that did NOT lead to an avalanche of newspaper reports saying "EU threatens Greece over border controls" as it this is some kind of valid argument just shows the intellectual and moral bankruptcy that you systemically stoop to in order to try and support your fictional view of the world.
), the Guardian or the Telegraph etc. They spread lies as much as you do when it suits them too. But as it is, I didn't notice any of them mention sanctions.
