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[GreekIslandGirl]

“We should be clear that no country is being threatened with suspension from Schengen,” European Commissioner for Migration, Home Affairs and Citizenship Dimitris Avramopoulos said on Friday in an interview with EurActiv.

In any case, Schengen rules do not foresee the possibility of such a suspension, he underlined adding that the European Commission is here to help and support member states.

“On the contrary what we are trying to do is to safeguard and to strengthen Schengen. If we want to continue to move freely internally, we simply have to better manage our external borders. We are helping Greece to do that, and I know that Greece is making efforts too. But it is not just about borders. This is precisely what the inhabitants of the Greek islands show on a daily basis. They give food, donate clothes, help those vulnerable people who arrive – they have been doing this from the very start, because it is the right and humane thing to do.

- See more at: http://greece.greekreporter.com/2016/02 ... GmBVY.dpuf

[supporttheunderdog]

We should also bear in mind that interview was on 29th Jan. Between then an 3rd Feb decisions were then taken and the world press all seem to be saying tbe same thing.Greece out. . The daily mail even had what I would call a scurrilous report thst the EU has already decided that Greece will not reach the required standard in the Three months. That I find appalling.

May I make my piston clear at this point, that I have no desire to see any form of sanctions against Greece. I sincerely hope Greece can rectify the deficiences so there will be no excuse for any form action which would affect border less travel.

[GreekIslandGirl]

I have no desire to see any form of sanctions against Greece.

Then stop spreading lies in forms desiring temptation for a self-fulfilling prophecy!

Greece has never been threatened with sanctions by those that count. Nor are there ANY signs now of such a thing!

AS I have been saying for weeks and now we see materialising - Greece is now getting more help with patrolling the EU's EXTERNAL BORDERS along with input (previously deficient) from some of the other responsible EU members!

Sanctions couldn't be further from the truth of what is being offered!

[Lordo]

hang on a minute. if cyprus is a sister and greace is the mother then that leaves terggy to be the father. gavole what a turn up for the books.

[supporttheunderdog]

When even Tusk is talking Greece's possible suspension from Schengen, in the context it will Not stop the immigrant crises, then it appears to me it must be something under discussion....i otherwise simpy report and discuss what I read, and in any event what I may say will not influence what will or will not happen one iota. I do however genuinely hope that no premature decision, as reported in some parts of the gutter press, has already bern made and further that hope that Greece will be found to have fullfilled its obligations.

[repulsewarrior]

...father of what Lordo, by your supposition Turkey is no more than a rapist, father of tragedy, brutality, intolerance, and lies. Ask the Kurds today, never mind the Greeks of Turkey, and never mind the Armenians, ask the Alevi, sisters too. Your happy supposition only means that what is a Turkey for "Turks" moves closer with this false pride; a much, much smaller place than it is now will be the result, motherlands are still in the making, with Turkey's intentions unchanged. "Turks" should be careful what they wish for.

[GreekIslandGirl]

...i otherwise simpy report and discuss what I read,

Thank you but we don't need your regurgitated propaganda. You try to portray Greece as the root cause of the EU's problems.

We can read and evaluate for ourselves, like thinking beings - without having you screaming "Grexit" and "expulsion" and "sanctions" all the time.

Right now, all that extra help that's been promised is being put in place - let's see if it actually helps Greece look after the EU's external borders along with the other obligated members.

[erolz66]

We can read and evaluate for ourselves, like thinking beings - without having you screaming "Grexit" and "expulsion" and "sanctions" all the time.

The royal 'we' yet again.

Anyone can indeed see how you, singular, 'evaluate'. How you 'evaluated' that a EU Commission press release that was EXPLICITLY about the 'Schengen evaluation report on Greece' was about an entirely different document that was not even an evaluation report. The quality of your powers of 'evaluation' are clearly and explicitly shown and laid bare for anyone who can be bothered to look here. As it can also so clearly be seen how you behave should anyone have the temerity to challenge such 'evaluations' from yourself , that claim black is in fact white. You call such 'evaluation'. I call it blatant shameless distortion of factual reality to suit your agenda. This is what you do. It is what you have always done here on this forum.

[supporttheunderdog]

...i otherwise simpy report and discuss what I read,

Thank you but we don't need your regurgitated propaganda. You try to portray Greece as the root cause of the EU's problemsw.

Do I? Can you, without your usual selective editing identify any such statement ?
I would not say such a thing becuase it is not true. The EU Has a number of problems of which those in Greece are but a symptom, including "the one size does not quite fit anybody , though it fitted some better than others" principles of the Euro.

We can read and evaluate for ourselves, like thinking beings - without having you screaming "Grexit" and "expulsion" and "sanctions" all the time.

these are matters that need debating, and as Pahpitis ane Erolz have shown elswhere it is possible to have rational and academic debate. With you the prospect of rationality is remote, and thst is why the same point must be made again and again and again and again to counter the absurdities and distortions that you spout.

Right now, all that extra help that's been promised is being put in place - let's see if it actually helps Greece look after the EU's external borders along with the other obligated members.

I hope it works too, but what other obligated members, bearing in mind under ec2004/2007 para 4 Greece's borders are Greece's responsibility, with help from Central Eu resources, and now NATO. .

[GreekIslandGirl]

Both of you, erolz and stud, have been screaming 'sanctions' and 'expulsion' despite the evaluations recommending more help for Greece.

Where are the sanctions?

When is the expulsion?

All we see are forces being set in motion to do their bit for the external border too!

All we see are the countries that failed to deliver on picking up their share of migrants being scolded (and that is NOT Greece!).

Be off with your propaganda!