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Re: Akinci

Postby Nikitas » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:18 pm

You heard them in Limassol? You live in Limassol and not the earthly paradise of the north? That is a surprise!

Total demilitarisation of the whole island has been a the constant demand of the GCs since the 1970s. It has been endorsed by every president and every political party since. Total demilitarisation means total, no Greek, Turkish or British troops to remain on the island and no national guard. The primary opponents of this have been the Turks with their insistence on a permanent military presence, and the British who see their SBAs as non Cypriot territory and therefore exempt from any agreement, though they featured mightily in the Annan plan.

And naturally, if Turkey maintains troops then Greece will do the same and we are back at square 1, with the two "guarantors" armies drawing up contingency plans and the British "monitoring" them both.

During the Annan days I heard Akinci give an interview on Greek TV. Beyond his affability I did not see anything that revealed any understanding of the other side's concerns with that plan.
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Re: Akinci

Postby Sotos » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:36 pm

Alexios wrote:OK OK. The trnc for whatever it stands.
pseudo turkish cypriots, pseudo elections , pseudo army, pseudo 40 years passing, pseudo settlers increasing by the day, pseudo everything!
You ll be saying the same after 100 years...


And your point is? Watch this video:



Note that the only country that recognizes them is the country that created them by invasion and ethnic cleansing. Pseudo-state is the APPROPRIATE title for such entity since in reality it is just an occupied territory which is run my the muppets of the invader and NOT by its native population.
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Re: Akinci

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:14 pm

Nikitas wrote:You heard them in Limassol? You live in Limassol and not the earthly paradise of the north? That is a surprise!

Total demilitarisation of the whole island has been a the constant demand of the GCs since the 1970s. It has been endorsed by every president and every political party since. Total demilitarisation means total, no Greek, Turkish or British troops to remain on the island and no national guard. The primary opponents of this have been the Turks with their insistence on a permanent military presence, and the British who see their SBAs as non Cypriot territory and therefore exempt from any agreement, though they featured mightily in the Annan plan.

And naturally, if Turkey maintains troops then Greece will do the same and we are back at square 1, with the two "guarantors" armies drawing up contingency plans and the British "monitoring" them both.

During the Annan days I heard Akinci give an interview on Greek TV. Beyond his affability I did not see anything that revealed any understanding of the other side's concerns with that plan.


He cooperated quite well with Lelos for the broader Nicosia, they made the Joint Sewerage system under extremely difficult conditions and they even have prepared all town plan drawings so that Nicosia gets reunited very fast after a solution. Both him and Lelos got some international awards, for protecting cultural heritage etc
Just recently under these hot campaign days at 8 Feb 15 he took a positive stance for Varoshia.
http://www.kpdailynews.com/index.php/ca ... LOCAL_NEWS

I think he is progressive and i don't mean the stupid "progressive" label the communists attach to themselves.
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Re: Akinci

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:28 pm

More info about Akinci

http://www.brtk.net/?english_posts=akin ... ued-visits

Stating that he shared the same views with Mr. Talat when it came to the Cyprus Problem, Akıncı said that they both saw the future of the island in peace, harmony and united with a federal settlement.


http://www.thecypriotpuzzle.org/talat-i ... nd-ballot/

I am not saying Akinci would be a panacea, all I am saying is with Eroglu +turkey we have 0% chance to solve the CYProb with Akinci +Turkey we have ~ 30%.
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Re: Akinci

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:43 pm

Everywhere I read akinci seems to be the only hope

http://www.euractiv.com/sections/med-so ... rus-313971

Akinci desires, as Eroglu does not, a reunited federal Cyprus within the EU. Akinci accepts that the Annan Plan is over. He will fight for the interests of Turkish Cypriots against an eventual annexation by Ankara. He knows that a formal partition of the island would leave the Turkish mini-state unviable. Born in southern Limassol, Mustafa Akinci is a liberal patriot for all Cyprus. He deserves success at home and widespread recognition abroad. As the new leader of the Turkish Cypriots he will need the determined backing of the EU, the US and UN (including Russia) to forge a quick and durable settlement with Republic of Cyprus President Anastasiades, who also supported the Annan Plan. Cyprus might well be about to deliver some rare good news for Europe and the world.


So many positive views about him can't be wrong!
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Re: Akinci

Postby kurupetos » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:42 pm

Are you that stupid you hope for a solution if he's elected? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Akinci

Postby Lordo » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:51 am

if anastasiades decides to negotiate we shall have peace. if he decides to tassosise then no chance.
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Re: Akinci

Postby B25 » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:55 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:More info about Akinci

http://www.brtk.net/?english_posts=akin ... ued-visits

Stating that he shared the same views with Mr. Talat when it came to the Cyprus Problem, Akıncı said that they both saw the future of the island in peace, harmony and united with a federal settlement.


http://www.thecypriotpuzzle.org/talat-i ... nd-ballot/

I am not saying Akinci would be a panacea, all I am saying is with Eroglu +turkey we have 0% chance to solve the CYProb with Akinci +Turkey we have ~ 30%.


Your sums are wrong, Eroglu+Turkey=Turkey, Akinci+Turkey=Turkey, Any TC or Turk +Turkey=Turkey. That's because they are all = Zero and only Turkey talks.

She only has to stop payments to the pseudo state and we shall see what happens. Put 40,000 heavily armed troops on alert and then what. She has already proven that killing and hurting her own is no problem. Let us see the balls the TCs have. When Turkey says jump, the TCs can only say how high, period. Whatever BS reports are being printed by the media is just the West's propaganda hype.

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Re: Akinci

Postby Lordo » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:52 pm

do you suppose terggy makes no money out of being present in cyprus. have a look at the trade figures between terggy and trnc and see how much money terggy gets out of trnc.

i wish she would stop the money.
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Re: Akinci

Postby Jerry » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:31 pm

Lordo wrote:do you suppose terggy makes no money out of being present in cyprus. have a look at the trade figures between terggy and trnc and see how much money terggy gets out of trnc.

i wish she would stop the money.


Economics is not your best subject, is it? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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