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[Maximus]

you are both blind and deaf

so we are going to ignore and not listen to you.

[Lordo]

fanatics like you have been doing that since 1963. whats new.

[B25]

This whole interview is about change. He says that this vote for Akinci is about those who WANT change and those who DO NOT.

They don't tell anything about how they have changed, or how their view on the CY problem has changed. They just tell you the changes they expect from the GC's.

The interviewer asks how feasible it is for Akinci to deliver the changes he has promised and they don't give you a straight answer, or inform about what these changes are.

She says its the second time the TC's have challenged the status quo, they have overthrow a powerful nationalist government......blah blah blah. The first time we tried to make change things went wrong, ( I assume she is talking about the Annan plan) we can sit and talk about them all morning, blah blah blah. but the important thing here is that we achieved this for the second time, we have given out a very clear and very strong message, blah blah blah and some more bollox and now it is the duty of the GC's (leadership, media, opinion leaders, etc) to get this message and mobilize their audience.

Then he gives us examples about the changes the GC's have to make.

Seems like an amicable conversation but its all bollox because they have not changed. Its about what they WANT.

Amen. Seems the only message they got across was that we have accept our losses. Seems some mushrooms this side will full for this clap trap.

[Maximus]

fanatics like you have been doing that since 1963. whats new.

Time to wise up or shut up !

Please tell us about the changes Akinci has promised.

I cant hear you.

[Maximus]

SSShhhhhh, tell me.....

[B25]

SSShhhhhh, tell me.....

[Lordo]

here is a change in the south. most media did not refer to pseudo state or pseudo elections.

[Maximus]

here is a change in the south. most media did not refer to pseudo state or pseudo elections.

Please start by telling us what changes Akinci has promised.

Then tell us how the TC's have changed and how their view on the CY problem has changed.

The viewers at home missed it.

[Pyrpolizer]

What are the changes that will have to take place? How is Akinci different from Eroglu? How is the TC view different than before? How have they changed?

Akinci is different from Eroglu because Akinci wants the type of solution that is near to what we want. Eroglu wanted a disguised partition solution worse than the Anan Plan.
The TCs haven't changed yesterday.They chanced during the very long process of 30 years during which Denktash had them locked in an open prison.They revolted and voted Talat. Then Turkey mobilized the settlers and imposed Eroglu on them. Akinci was not elected by accident. He is the outcome of TC's revolt that matured in 2002 and still continues.

[repulsewarrior]

...change in the political fabric of the north is certain. It is important for the message of change to be reinforced; change is not a bad thing, neither is truth. it will not be easy, if we want to make a common future for ourselves we must be prepared to change, because the rationale of the what things are is not sustainable. Active dialog is important, between the communities, rather than within communities. Ankara must step back, it is something that is used by them to rally National Policy, in affect, Turks (the average person) don't really know anything about the Problem, it is the military intervention, an emotional subject, a matter of Pride and not much more.

...that is why it is important for Turkish Cypriots to stand up to their brother, it is time to stand up to taboos even in the Greek Community, Akinci is the guy who stood up to Turkey on other occasions, we can raise our voices, we made our voices heard and the crossings that opened, it was the people that opened the crossings. Mainly his duty will be to take part in the negotiations to end the Problem. The other parties have made it clear that they are not prepared to go to early elections, Akinci has support, and the opposition will help, a huge healing would be for the two leaders to apologise to each other, it is necessary to move forward, knowing history is necessary, it was painful, bitter and tragic, it should never happen again, living in the past is not moving forward, if Akinci fails it will be very hard to have hope, but let us concentrate on what we can accomplish now, something more tangible is possible because we have reached the stage of give and take.

...nice report, thanks Lordo.