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Cherie Blair defending Orams!

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Postby Eric dayi » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:42 am

Hands up all those GC's who would have not moaned at all had Mrs. Blair taken cases on from the GC side.

Don't put yur hands up all at once will ya, the bandwith of the site might not be able to cope with it. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Alexios » Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:18 am

First of all mrs Blair is defending a British citizen and she has every right to.If however, i was a British citizen taking advandage of G/C property in the "TRNC" or in fact anybody who supported the Orams i would think twice before asking mrs Blair to take up the case.British courts will act according to British and european law and i really dont believe their judgement would be affected even if the Orams were defended by the Queen herself!. If the Orams do win the case all is fine.If they lose however, the accompanying negative publicity which will multiply as a result of mrs Blair,s involvement will be much bigger.In any event, what the defence will try to do is either to postpone the case or try to have it examined at the Hague so that British courts avoid the foreclosure of the Orams property in the UK itself.Thats the best they can do as even a first year law student knows that the title deed of mr Apostolides is unquestionable.
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Postby cypezokyli » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:43 am

agree alexios.

not to mention that we should not forget the lawer offices of papadopoulos and sons, anastsiadis and sons, and more than half of our parliament :wink:
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:48 am

Alexios wrote:First of all mrs Blair is defending a British citizen and she has every right to.If however, i was a British citizen taking advandage of G/C property in the "TRNC" or in fact anybody who supported the Orams i would think twice before asking mrs Blair to take up the case.British courts will act according to British and european law and i really dont believe their judgement would be affected even if the Orams were defended by the Queen herself!. If the Orams do win the case all is fine.If they lose however, the accompanying negative publicity which will multiply as a result of mrs Blair,s involvement will be much bigger.In any event, what the defence will try to do is either to postpone the case or try to have it examined at the Hague so that British courts avoid the foreclosure of the Orams property in the UK itself.Thats the best they can do as even a first year law student knows that the title deed of mr Apostolides is unquestionable.


I agree with the publicity angle that it will work against which ever side loses but currently the talk is that if Mrs Blair (who my opinion will pull out after mounting pressure) such a high profile figure is taking the side of the TCs then buying property in TRNC could be a lucartive investment and estates agents have reported more enquires into the market after the announcement. Is this what the GCs wanted???
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:01 am

I must say I did think it was politically very insensitive for Mrs Blair to be involved in this case.Surely she must've known that this would turn into a political football given what her husband does.
I don't want to whip up a conspiracy theory but,I read in some turkish papers (mainland) that the Blairs are planning to retire to Turkey after his political career.Has anyone else heard this rumour?
Could they be trying to earn some brownie points with Turkey?
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Postby Alexios » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:09 am

Inquiries into the market does not necessarily mean inquiries to buy.I would assume, the publicity would make people more investigative as to what goes on in the "TRNC" and under the circumstances deter sensible people from investing in the North.Of course there are investors who will still buy under speculation.
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Postby Alexios » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:13 am

Birkibrisli wrote:I must say I did think it was politically very insensitive for Mrs Blair to be involved in this case.Surely she must've known that this would turn into a political football given what her husband does.
I don't want to whip up a conspiracy theory but,I read in some turkish papers (mainland) that the Blairs are planning to retire to Turkey after his political career.Has anyone else heard this rumour?
Could they be trying to earn some brownie points with Turkey?


Anything is possible.But if this is the case i would be twice as cautious if i were the Orams or a supporter of their case...
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Postby zan » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:43 am

Could the possible outcome be that the TRNC gets all the blame and that the property In England is safe? Then all eyes are on the TRNC; no change there and all bets are off because the TRNC is not recognised. Clever these lawyers.
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Postby Alexios » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:53 am

zan wrote:Could the possible outcome be that the TRNC gets all the blame and that the property In England is safe? Then all eyes are on the TRNC; no change there and all bets are off because the TRNC is not recognised. Clever these lawyers.


Just another possibility.I do insist that what the defence will try to do is send the case to the ECHR.If they do it will be a half victory and a half defeat. The defence saves face and Apostolides enters another battle.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:02 am

Then they will come full circle back to the north to the "new property committe" to ask for compensation which will be frozen until a solution is found. Well done to all concerned, is this the solution we seek? its what we deserve... :wink:
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