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[Lordo]

this is for those who think they can keep the cyprus problem going for ever and nothing will change.

[url]ww.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31901966[/url]

it is time tcs had a referendum.

[umit07]

Referendum for what?

[Nikitas]

To legalise stolen land titles. There is no other realistic choice.

I cannot access the link, but if it is what I think it is, ie the partition and quest for international recognition then the TCs and Turkey will have to admit that they relinquih all claims to the rest of the island.

Are they ready to do that? Relinquish their claims to the EEZ of the south? Their properties in the south, the pension rights they have established in the RoC, and burn their passports and ID cards?

Are you so sure that TCs want to limit themselves to the passports and travel documents of the trunc?

There is an antidote to this bullshit. The RoC to brig out a map of the trunc that it is prepared to accept and announce that it will recognise an independent TC state within those territorial limits. It will be so funny to watch the show that will ensue.

[Lordo]

here is another one for the old godjagaro. read what the kurdish leader is saying about shi-ite militia that usa is backing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31917412

[Lordo]

To legalise stolen land titles. There is no other realistic choice.

you taught the tergs well how to steal land.

if russia can do it the tergs will not be far behind.

[Nikitas]

The TC community in Limassol elects a bloody mukhtar who has a say in the renovation of the mosque, so I learnt from Tim on this forum. Obviously there are TCs in Limassol, living in their homes and have local representation.

You joined in on that discussion if I recall. And you have the nerve to talk about stealing land and how we taught you!

How many minorities in the trunc are there and do they choose their mukhtars? Tells us and make us laugh, you racist asshole.

[Flying Horse]

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31901966

Lordo couldn't supply a correct link in his original post. Think this is it.

Totally irrelevant to Cyprus I might add

[Lordo]

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31901966

Lordo couldn't supply a correct link in his original post. Think this is it.

Totally irrelevant to Cyprus I might add

its a test to see if you have enough initiative to get to the link. it aint rocket science is it.
why is it irrelevant. did the russians not annex a part of ukraine? is that not going to happen in cyprus.

erdo baby is about two steps behind but sooner or later he will catch up.

[Nikitas]

Some simple differences, like the Ukraine not being part of the EU, there being no treaty of establishment, and above all there is no counter measure like the union of the free areas with Greece which is a Turkish nightmare. You ought to read statements made by Turkish leaders some time. They will enlighten you, people like Ecevit, Ozal, Demirel, even Erdo himself said it a couple of years back, double union will make Greece a Middle Eastern power and this scares them for some reason.

[repulsewarrior]

...or you can consider the links to Russia the Crimea has and had, very unlike the links Turkey had (and has) to Cyprus.

In any case, the world has waited patiently for Turkey to recognise that the issue has more to do with Persons, the Liberty individuals enjoy through Free Association. Freedom is not, what is "Turkish" and what is not. It is about Individuals, and what that means when, as Human beings, they seek to better their condition toward defending Universal Principals, something bigger than their distinct identities.

Lordo, a referendum in the north, by the occupation regime, is valueless. If there was real democracy in Cyprus, if the debate was not about "Turkishness" and (read: "Greek") what is not "Turkish", especially among Turkish Cypriots, there would be a Patriotism for Cyprus seen, this is natural. If there was open debate, likely we would see Parties in opposition that are Pan-Cypriot, if not a Pan-Cypriot Party that leads, by this time, but there are not.

The best outcome for Cypriots is a social-economy that recognises what margins of scale exist, as Cypriots, this is the fact. And the Unions, Academia, the Sports Associations, Business, Youth (remember the Occupation Movement) are all beginning to take their own initiatives, since it is the political leadership that has failed to capitalise on Cyprus' potential, as Cypriots.

Even in an atmosphere where flying the Flag of Cyprus represents an offence worthy of arrest, it is not so clear whether the "tc" as you call them are "Turks".