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[miltiades]

You’ve chosen a bad example because that was just a test of faith, but anyway I understand the point you’re trying to make and agree with you.

For your info, the Bible prescribes the death penalty for the following cases:

Murder
Adultery
Bestiality
Rape
Sodomy
A betrothed woman who does not cry out while being raped
A woman who is found not to have been a virgin on the night of her wedding
Worshiping other gods
Witchcraft
Taking God's name in vain or cursing his name
Cursing a parent
Kidnapping

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_and_ ... _the_Bible

Surprise, surprise… it’s no different to the Qumran but that of course doesn’t stop the double standards!

You do talk some shit psycho!! Your stupidity is beyond comparison. You know as much about the bible as I know about the Cinese alphabet !!
You thick bastard, piss off to Syria will you!!

[umit07]

To GR

I believe the wiki source you have quoted is from the Hebrew Bible. As a person who claims to have studied theology and the bible, which version of the bible do you consider truest to the original?

I like the King James because it seems the most sensible in translations/interpretations.

Firstly, I must confess that I am quite ignorant to all of the holy texts attributed to the abrahamic religions. I have recently started to read the Quran and plan to also read the Bible. My limited understanding is that there is a vast difference between the new and old testament. The latter describing a god that is much harsher to judge and what some may call more violent, similar to the verses of the Quran that were revealed during the Muhammad's time in Medina (vs the revelations in Mecca).

To what degree do differences in the new testament vary christian beliefs between denominations? As a advocate of the King James Bible would you still consider yourself of the Orthodox branch of Christianity?

[Get Real!]

To GR

I believe the wiki source you have quoted is from the Hebrew Bible. As a person who claims to have studied theology and the bible, which version of the bible do you consider truest to the original?

I like the King James because it seems the most sensible in translations/interpretations.

Firstly, I must confess that I am quite ignorant to all of the holy texts attributed to the abrahamic religions. I have recently started to read the Quran and plan to also read the Bible. My limited understanding is that there is a vast difference between the new and old testament. The latter describing a god that is much harsher to judge and what some may call more violent, similar to the verses of the Quran that were revealed during the Muhammad's time in Medina (vs the revelations in Mecca).

To what degree do differences in the new testament vary christian beliefs between denominations? As a advocate of the King James Bible would you still consider yourself of the Orthodox branch of Christianity?

In case you missed it earlier… Hebrew Bible = Christian Old Testament

I hope this little diagram clears some things up for you:

TheBible.jpg

As for Christian denominations, their arguments mostly revolve around the interpretation and abidance by “The Holy Trinity” (the Father, Ghost, and Holy Spirit).

I consider myself Orthodox on paper because I was baptized that way as a baby but it doesn’t worry me much because a belief in God is the most important thing and not Man’s rituals.

[Paphitis]

To GR

I believe the wiki source you have quoted is from the Hebrew Bible. As a person who claims to have studied theology and the bible, which version of the bible do you consider truest to the original?

I like the King James because it seems the most sensible in translations/interpretations.

Firstly, I must confess that I am quite ignorant to all of the holy texts attributed to the abrahamic religions. I have recently started to read the Quran and plan to also read the Bible. My limited understanding is that there is a vast difference between the new and old testament. The latter describing a god that is much harsher to judge and what some may call more violent, similar to the verses of the Quran that were revealed during the Muhammad's time in Medina (vs the revelations in Mecca).

To what degree do differences in the new testament vary christian beliefs between denominations? As a advocate of the King James Bible would you still consider yourself of the Orthodox branch of Christianity?

In case you missed it earlier… Hebrew Bible = Christian Old Testament

I hope this little diagram clears some things up for you:

TheBible.jpg

As for Christian denominations, their arguments mostly revolve around the interpretation and abidance by “The Holy Trinity” (the Father, Ghost, and Holy Spirit).

I consider myself Orthodox on paper because I was baptized that way as a baby but it doesn’t worry me much because a belief in God is the most important thing and not Man’s rituals.

It's the Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit!

You call yourself a Christian and you can't even get it right!

Who do you think you're kidding? Christian my arse!

[Paphitis]

not that i have read the quran but i understand that there is no verse in the quran encouraging anybody to kill anybody. it is only an interpretation which is abused by the fanatics to commit murder.

is there any verse in the bible to encourage moses to kill somebody.

i always thought that bible taught us to turn the other cheek if one is slapped. is this not the case. have i been wrong all these years.

I notice that the Old Testament says "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" while the New Testament tells us "Turn the other cheek" which is clearly a blatant contradiction. Still, I would like to know first why Genesis 2 tells us that God created the beasts before man and Genesis 3 tells us it was the other way round. Once we have dealt with that contradiction on pages 1-2 of the book, maybe we can move on. Funny, the self-proclaimed experts here on religion keep ignoring my request for clarification on this matter. Let's dispel it and then move on to the next of hundreds of contradictions in this work deemed to be so perfect that countless numbers of people have been tortured and killed in its name over the centuries (thankfully not in Europe since the Enlightenment).

Very interesting Tim!

Maybe one of the zealots can explain this!

Maybe you can start a thread with all the contradictions. Would be interesting.

[umit07]

To GR

I believe the wiki source you have quoted is from the Hebrew Bible. As a person who claims to have studied theology and the bible, which version of the bible do you consider truest to the original?

I like the King James because it seems the most sensible in translations/interpretations.

Firstly, I must confess that I am quite ignorant to all of the holy texts attributed to the abrahamic religions. I have recently started to read the Quran and plan to also read the Bible. My limited understanding is that there is a vast difference between the new and old testament. The latter describing a god that is much harsher to judge and what some may call more violent, similar to the verses of the Quran that were revealed during the Muhammad's time in Medina (vs the revelations in Mecca).

To what degree do differences in the new testament vary christian beliefs between denominations? As a advocate of the King James Bible would you still consider yourself of the Orthodox branch of Christianity?

In case you missed it earlier… Hebrew Bible = Christian Old Testament

I hope this little diagram clears some things up for you:

TheBible.jpg

As for Christian denominations, their arguments mostly revolve around the interpretation and abidance by “The Holy Trinity” (the Father, Ghost, and Holy Spirit).

I consider myself Orthodox on paper because I was baptized that way as a baby but it doesn’t worry me much because a belief in God is the most important thing and not Man’s rituals.

I'm confused by what you mean by the Qumran (you've mentioned it twice now). Do you mean to say Quran/Koran? The only text I can find with reference to the Qumran are the "Dead Sea Scrolls" (Qumran Cave texts)

[Paphitis]

To GR

I believe the wiki source you have quoted is from the Hebrew Bible. As a person who claims to have studied theology and the bible, which version of the bible do you consider truest to the original?

I like the King James because it seems the most sensible in translations/interpretations.

Firstly, I must confess that I am quite ignorant to all of the holy texts attributed to the abrahamic religions. I have recently started to read the Quran and plan to also read the Bible. My limited understanding is that there is a vast difference between the new and old testament. The latter describing a god that is much harsher to judge and what some may call more violent, similar to the verses of the Quran that were revealed during the Muhammad's time in Medina (vs the revelations in Mecca).

To what degree do differences in the new testament vary christian beliefs between denominations? As a advocate of the King James Bible would you still consider yourself of the Orthodox branch of Christianity?

In case you missed it earlier… Hebrew Bible = Christian Old Testament

I hope this little diagram clears some things up for you:

TheBible.jpg

As for Christian denominations, their arguments mostly revolve around the interpretation and abidance by “The Holy Trinity” (the Father, Ghost, and Holy Spirit).

I consider myself Orthodox on paper because I was baptized that way as a baby but it doesn’t worry me much because a belief in God is the most important thing and not Man’s rituals.

I'm confused by what you mean by the Qumran (you've mentioned it twice now). Do you mean to say Quran/Koran? The only text I can find with reference to the Qumran are the "Dead Sea Scrolls" (Qumran Cave texts)

[Tim Drayton]

not that i have read the quran but i understand that there is no verse in the quran encouraging anybody to kill anybody. it is only an interpretation which is abused by the fanatics to commit murder.

is there any verse in the bible to encourage moses to kill somebody.

i always thought that bible taught us to turn the other cheek if one is slapped. is this not the case. have i been wrong all these years.

I notice that the Old Testament says "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" while the New Testament tells us "Turn the other cheek" which is clearly a blatant contradiction. Still, I would like to know first why Genesis 2 tells us that God created the beasts before man and Genesis 3 tells us it was the other way round. Once we have dealt with that contradiction on pages 1-2 of the book, maybe we can move on. Funny, the self-proclaimed experts here on religion keep ignoring my request for clarification on this matter. Let's dispel it and then move on to the next of hundreds of contradictions in this work deemed to be so perfect that countless numbers of people have been tortured and killed in its name over the centuries (thankfully not in Europe since the Enlightenment).

Very interesting Tim!

Maybe one of the zealots can explain this!

Maybe you can start a thread with all the contradictions. Would be interesting.

Here are one or two to be going on with.

http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_ ... tions.html

Anyway, if people find some kind of solace in this stuff, and they don't go around burning witches or chopping people's heads off, let's live and let live. The God delusion is obviously doomed, long term.

[umit07]

What's so funny?

[Paphitis]

What's so funny?

He has made a lot of simple mistakes for someone claiming to be a strong believer or religious. I think he is having us on.

A Christian would be very famiar with the Trinity. It is core to Orthodox Christianity. Calling the Son a Ghost would be a big no no.

Also the thing you highlighted about the Qumran Vs Quran. I have no idea about the Quran and I don't know much about the Bible, new or Old Testament, but these things are really basic even for an Atheist or non believer to know.