Paphitis wrote:Garavnoss wrote:miltiades wrote:Paphitis wrote:Also destroyed are 2500 year old artifacts from the Hellenistic Period.
They do this in the name of....God. Fucking barbarians!
The British forces used the "Sphinx" for target practise back in the good old days, Lord Elgin nicked the frieze of the "Parthenon" (to name but 2 of like examples of destruction) and there are countless other examples of such destructive actions.
Do you consider these latest ones as any more offensive than those which preceded them ?.
Throughout history, the first evidence of contempt for the culture of others has been the destruction of their art and treasures.
A sad fact but undeniably true................................... how about "Dresden".
I would like to see a link or evidence about the British using the Sphinx as target practice.
I do not condone Greek Antiquities being displayed in London when they should be in Greece, but Lord Elgin never destroyed the antiquities and was probably concerned about the fate of these artifacts at the hands of the Ottomans who would have behaved as Islamic State did at the Mosul Museum.
Dresden Bombimbs was to bring WW2 to a swift end. Completely off topic.
Garavnoss wrote:Although Napoleon is said to be responsible for removing the nose of the Sphinx, the British Army are said to be responsible for using the Sphinx for target practise.
I completely reject that!
All that can be found is unsubstantiated hearsay. The scars of the Sphinx are blamed on a number of events in history but the "British are only said to have taken pot shots", which to me means that the British Army did not use the Sphinx as target practice at all.
Once again, please substantiate your claims.
http://www.napoleon-series.org/faq/c_sphinx.htmlhttp://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/great-sphinx.htmlGaravnoss wrote:Lord Elgin was an underhanded dealer in ancient artefacts, he tricked the Greek authorities (or bribed them) into allowing him to remove the frieze, never mind about what the Ottomans might have done if they had been given the chance, it would have at least been expected of them as opposed to what one would have expected from the honourable British (don't you agree?).
Once again, I reject this.
firstly, there were no Greek Authorities to trick. There was no Greece. The Parthenon was controlled by the Ottoman Empire and the Ottomans were using the Parthenon as an armoury and at one stage they blew it up.
I don't make any claims over Lord Elgin's motives which I can't substantiate. Whilst, I do not agree with the marbles being in London, rather than Athens, it is quite clear to me that he removed the marbles to preserve them, not from the Greeks but from the Turks.
Garavnoss wrote:As to Dresden, what an incredibly horrendous and murderous attack on a widely acclaimed beautiful city, only "Savages" of the very lowest order (I'm quoting Miltiades here) would perpetrate such an inhuman and cowardly assault upon a sleeping city and in the process of destroying irreplaceable art treasures, kill thousands of innocent civilians......Oh but wait, I might be getting a bit off the topic here by confusing Dresden with the "Shock and Awe" assault on Baghdad.
Yes of courser you would call the allies barbarians. Of course you would think it was barbaric but would the loss of another 2 million people be better and the war continuing to the 1950s?
Garavnoss wrote:Come to think of it, WE of the West, do not really have that much to crow about, if we wish to be fair that is.
As Cap had already told you, the US occupies Iraq for 8 years. Did they destroy anything of any cultural significance to Iraq?
I know that the US will be blamed for the destruction of the Mosul Museum. It's ok as such is the price for being the Global Power.