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Re: Islamic State destroy 2000 year old Assyrian artefacts

Postby Get Real! » Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:11 pm

When America indiscriminately bombed the living shit out of Iraq on two separate occasions and the first lasting for over a month, I’ll bet none of you weasels had anything to say about it! :lol:

The stench of double standards in this forum is making it difficult to stick around very long… :?
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Re: Islamic State destroy 2000 year old Assyrian artefacts

Postby miltiades » Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:49 pm

Get Real! wrote:When America indiscriminately bombed the living shit out of Iraq on two separate occasions and the first lasting for over a month, I’ll bet none of you weasels had anything to say about it! :lol:

The stench of double standards in this forum is making it difficult to stick around very long… :?

A fucked up psycho has his say. Fuck off you piece of shit, go join your fucking relatives is Syria.
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Re: Islamic State destroy 2000 year old Assyrian artefacts

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:54 am

Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Also destroyed are 2500 year old artifacts from the Hellenistic Period.

They do this in the name of....God. Fucking barbarians!



The British forces used the "Sphinx" for target practise back in the good old days, Lord Elgin nicked the frieze of the "Parthenon" (to name but 2 of like examples of destruction) and there are countless other examples of such destructive actions.

Do you consider these latest ones as any more offensive than those which preceded them ?.

Throughout history, the first evidence of contempt for the culture of others has been the destruction of their art and treasures.

A sad fact but undeniably true................................... how about "Dresden".


I would like to see a link or evidence about the British using the Sphinx as target practice.

I do not condone Greek Antiquities being displayed in London when they should be in Greece, but Lord Elgin never destroyed the antiquities and was probably concerned about the fate of these artifacts at the hands of the Ottomans who would have behaved as Islamic State did at the Mosul Museum.

Dresden Bombimbs was to bring WW2 to a swift end. Completely off topic.



Garavnoss wrote:Although Napoleon is said to be responsible for removing the nose of the Sphinx, the British Army are said to be responsible for using the Sphinx for target practise.


I completely reject that!

All that can be found is unsubstantiated hearsay. The scars of the Sphinx are blamed on a number of events in history but the "British are only said to have taken pot shots", which to me means that the British Army did not use the Sphinx as target practice at all.

Once again, please substantiate your claims.

http://www.napoleon-series.org/faq/c_sphinx.html

http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/great-sphinx.html

Garavnoss wrote:Lord Elgin was an underhanded dealer in ancient artefacts, he tricked the Greek authorities (or bribed them) into allowing him to remove the frieze, never mind about what the Ottomans might have done if they had been given the chance, it would have at least been expected of them as opposed to what one would have expected from the honourable British (don't you agree?).


Once again, I reject this.

firstly, there were no Greek Authorities to trick. There was no Greece. The Parthenon was controlled by the Ottoman Empire and the Ottomans were using the Parthenon as an armoury and at one stage they blew it up.

I don't make any claims over Lord Elgin's motives which I can't substantiate. Whilst, I do not agree with the marbles being in London, rather than Athens, it is quite clear to me that he removed the marbles to preserve them, not from the Greeks but from the Turks.

Garavnoss wrote:As to Dresden, what an incredibly horrendous and murderous attack on a widely acclaimed beautiful city, only "Savages" of the very lowest order (I'm quoting Miltiades here) would perpetrate such an inhuman and cowardly assault upon a sleeping city and in the process of destroying irreplaceable art treasures, kill thousands of innocent civilians......Oh but wait, I might be getting a bit off the topic here by confusing Dresden with the "Shock and Awe" assault on Baghdad.


Yes of courser you would call the allies barbarians. Of course you would think it was barbaric but would the loss of another 2 million people be better and the war continuing to the 1950s?

Garavnoss wrote:Come to think of it, WE of the West, do not really have that much to crow about, if we wish to be fair that is. :lol:


As Cap had already told you, the US occupies Iraq for 8 years. Did they destroy anything of any cultural significance to Iraq?

I know that the US will be blamed for the destruction of the Mosul Museum. It's ok as such is the price for being the Global Power.
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Re: Islamic State destroy 2000 year old Assyrian artefacts

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:55 am

Garavnoss wrote:
Cap wrote:the Americans invaded Iraq in 2003 and left in 2011. Almost a decade in Iraq,
Was there any documented evidence of museum destruction?



Your having a laugh surely !, it might be that there was/is so much destruction in Iraq, it hasn't been catalogued yet !. :lol:


No I don't think he is.

He makes a valid point.

You however, might be taking the piss.
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Re: Islamic State destroy 2000 year old Assyrian artefacts

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:51 am

...sadly Cap, Ignorance is not only willful destruction, but willful negligence. Bush Jr. will be remembered for the destruction of the Baghdad Museum, which was left to the looters instead of defended; world history, just as rare, and valuable, lost.
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Re: Islamic State destroy 2000 year old Assyrian artefacts

Postby Get Real! » Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:12 am

Mass destruction and looting at multiple ancient Iraqi sites, by the criminal Americans were common…

http://itsartlaw.com/2013/08/05/us-agre ... s-to-iraq/
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Re: Islamic State destroy 2000 year old Assyrian artefacts

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:14 am

Get Real! wrote:Mass destruction and looting at multiple ancient Iraqi sites, by the criminal Americans were common…

http://itsartlaw.com/2013/08/05/us-agre ... s-to-iraq/


Read the article!

The US Government is returning 10,000 odd artifacts to the Iraqi government.

On Friday, Iraqi and United States officials announced that 10,000 objects will soon be returned to Baghdad’s National Museum. Some of the artifacts date from the time of Sumerian, Assyrian and Babylonian Empires.

Baha al-Mayahi, an Iraqi ministry advisor, refused to go into detail about how the artifacts were recovered. Yet, when the United States returned 30 artifacts in 2011, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) acknowledged that most of the objects were recovered as part of lengthy investigations. The majority recovered from Craigslist and e-bay, where they had been posted for sale by former US military members.
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Re: Islamic State destroy 2000 year old Assyrian artefacts

Postby Get Real! » Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:35 am

Paphitis wrote:Read the article!

The US Government is returning 10,000 odd artifacts to the Iraqi government.

READ THE ARTICLE BOZO!

Artifacts were PLUNDERED by Americans and that's why they now have to be returned!
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Re: Islamic State destroy 2000 year old Assyrian artefacts

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:22 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Read the article!

The US Government is returning 10,000 odd artifacts to the Iraqi government.

READ THE ARTICLE BOZO!

Artifacts were PLUNDERED by Americans and that's why they now have to be returned!


Not officially, so please read the article before you spout your bullshit!

That's right bozo! Some of the artifacts were recovered by American Customs after being illegally sold on the black market. There was no looting by the USA.

Oh and any soldiers caught in possession of any stolen artifacts dishonorably discharged.

Yet, when the United States returned 30 artifacts in 2011, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) acknowledged that most of the objects were recovered as part of lengthy investigations. The majority recovered from Craigslist and e-bay, where they had been posted for sale by former US military members.


You see!

That is the difference. The USA is always on the lookout for illicit antiquities and treasures being traded on the black market and coming to the USA.

That is why it was the US Government that returned a number of Icons belonging to Cyprus which were looted by the criminal Turks.
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Re: Islamic State destroy 2000 year old Assyrian artefacts

Postby Garavnoss » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:33 pm

American troops are notorious for their "Looting", they even make films expounding the virtues of such activities.

The one-sided views on this forum are quite astounding, wake up for God's sake.

Do not worry too much if you are unable to, the forces of Allah will wake you soon enough.
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