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[pg]

Even though Makarios - as head of state if nothing else - was ultimately responsible, it is not possible to use that excuses to infringe on individuals rights - as property rights.

I suspect the latest ECHR moves may be useful in shaking up the status quo and seprating the property issue from the political issue.

It seemed anyway that the 'comprehencive solution' was too difficult..., so let's go step by step instead.

[Viewpoint]

pg

t seemed anyway that the 'comprehencive solution' was too difficult..., so let's go step by step instead.

The comprehensive solution is only difficult for those that do not desire an overall solution (no prizes for guessing which side) and use the piece meal approach to weaken the opposite sides negotiating position.

[Piratis]

Signing the 1960 agreement and then going against it is the start of this, so the same question to you Piratis.

You are the ones who went against it, not us. We simply made proposals. Making proposals is 100% legal.

In fact since you didn't accept those proposals, what was proposed was not made. Those agreements are still there and YOU are the ones who insist on illegality and the violation of human rights and not us.

[zan]

Signing the 1960 agreement and then going against it is the start of this, so the same question to you Piratis.

You are the ones who went against it, not us. We simply made proposals. Making proposals is 100% legal.

In fact since you didn't accept those proposals, what was proposed was not made. Those agreements are still there and YOU are the ones who insist on illegality and the violation of human rights and not us.

Declaring ENOSIS was just a proposal now was it. Your misinterpretation of fact is really amazing. Bear faced cheek or just ignorance with a touch of malice. Annexation to Greece was a complete turn around from the 1960 agreement and totally illegal.

[Viewpoint]

Obviously suffering from anger fatigue Piratis you quite conveniently forget that the "proposals" of Akritas plan were put before Turkish Cypriots when they tried to return to the rightful place in the "RoC".
It was GCs that didnt accept the 1960 agreements as being fair and found it necessary to ram "proposals" down our throats that would take away our rights and agreed and signed between our 2 communities.
Whats to say that you will not do the same in any future agreements? Your are not very trustworthy in the eyes of TCs.

[Piratis]

"Anexation to Greece" was only part of the dream of some people include you. It is something that never happened and after 1960 was never officially supported. Some people acted unilaterally against Makarios and against RoC supporting Enosis, in the same way that some other people have acted against RoC supporting partition.

Stop using lame excuses please. You are the ones who committed the crime of partition by ethnically cleansing 200.000 Greek Cypriots. This is a historical fact, not theories and dreams.

And before you complain about the Enosis cause, why don't you apologize for the 300 years that Cyprus, against the will of its own people, was part of the Ottoman empire? This is another historical fact.

[zan]

"Anexation to Greece" was only part of the dream of some people include you. It is something that never happened and after 1960 was never officially supported. Some people acted unilaterally against Makarios and against RoC supporting Enosis, in the same way that some other people have acted against RoC supporting partition.

Stop using lame excuses please. You are the ones who committed the crime of partition by ethnically cleansing 200.000 Greek Cypriots. This is a historical fact, not theories and dreams.

And before you complain about the Enosis cause, why don't you apologize for the 300 years that Cyprus, against the will of its own people, was part of the Ottoman empire? This is another historical fact.

I am sorry for the Ottoman occupation.

I am also sorry that Makarios and Greece tried and as you quite rightly say failed to ENOSIS an island they signed papers to say they would not annex. Your crimes will not go unnoticed any more. You can shout and scream all you like but shouting louder does not make you right.

[Piratis]

Obviously suffering from anger fatigue Piratis you quite conveniently forget that the "proposals" of Akritas plan were put before Turkish Cypriots when they tried to return to the rightful place in the "RoC".

why did you put RoC in quotes? Because you never believed in it and you were always planing partition and your crimes.
Akritas plan was nothing more than a document. Do you really think that a document would give you the right to perform genocide and ethnic cleansing against us?

[zan]

Obviously suffering from anger fatigue Piratis you quite conveniently forget that the "proposals" of Akritas plan were put before Turkish Cypriots when they tried to return to the rightful place in the "RoC".

why did you put RoC in quotes? Because you never believed in it and you were always planing partition and your crimes.
Akritas plan was nothing more than a document. Do you really think that a document would give you the right to perform genocide and ethnic cleansing against us?

The 1960 agreement was just a document of contract. Makarios and Greece decided that Turkey, United Kingdom and the Turkish Cypriots did not matter enough for them to go against all three powers and start to ethnically cleanse the TCs from their homes.

[Piratis]

You can shout and scream all you like but shouting louder does not make you right.

We have the European Courts of Human Rights to prove once more that we are right. We don't need to shout. You are the ones who need to spread your propaganda and lies because thats all you have and nothing more.