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[Piratis]

Who is the one speaking of war or roumors of war. It is you!!!!

You are not just "speaking" war, you are doing war by illegally occupying part of the sovereign nation of Republic of Cyprus.

What about the human rights of TCs? Do the rights of these people not account for anything?

I never denied their human rights. They can have the 100% of their human rights. Each Turkish Cypriot should have nothing less and nothing more than each Greek Cypriot. All should be equal Cyprus citizens with equal rights. I never denied any TC right. (and no, keeping 200.000 people out of their homes is not TCs right)

My argument is that if one SINGLE person was displaced it is too much.

Thats my argument too. So why don't you agree that every person that was displaced should have the right to return to his own land?

You would start a war to get these peoples homes back and what I am telling you is that you will lose soooooo fucking bad that your ancestors will roll over in their graves. Wake up and smell the Turkish coffee.

I know we will loose if we start a war now. I hope you are smelling the same coffee and forgetting about EU. I hope you also know that sooner or later you will run out of coffee and things will be very different then.

[2fan]

Will you join the war or will you sit behind a computer along with source and hide? You are a big pussy! I can see you shaking now at the thought of grabbing a gun and declaring war against Turks.

I have my riffle and 200 bullets right behind me and I will defend my country if I have to.

I never said that a war should be made now. What I said is very logical: When you have the power you can insist on illegality, which is what you are doing now. When your power will run out (and it will sooner or later) you will not be able to enforce this illegality anymore.

So you will wait 100, 200 years from now and keep up the grudge, brainwash your children and yoru grandchildren until PERHAPS< MAYBE, REMOTELY Turkey sinks. You are a screwed up dude.

[Piratis]

I don't think it will take that long. Things happen fast in our times.

Regarding "brainwashing" I will not have to do any. Telling the truth, that is verified by the UN resolutions that demand the respect of the sovereignty of RoC, and ECHR ruling that declare clearly that all of our refugees have the right to return to their own homes, is more than enough.

You will be the one who will have to do the brainwashing in order to give excuses as to why the "TRNC" is an illegal pseudo puppet state, and why Turkey was rejected from the EU. I am sure you will find the "right" excuses and you will do good brainwashing as you always have done.

[akiner]

I know we will loose if we start a war now. I hope you are smelling the same coffee and forgetting about EU. I hope you also know that sooner or later you will run out of coffee and things will be very different then.

Keep dreaming poor pirati instead bringing leaders on negotiation table, that is your only hope....Btw i will enjoy on that forgetting Eu part, suits for me and most of Us aswell ... And think about it our states will be on chase-fire stance till Southern Cyprus starts the bullet rain again and also permanently at war...

YaY it is getting exciting

ps: Also i cant guarante we dont want to take the rest of the island (to solve the problem aswhole) in next 100-200 years

[Piratis]

Keep dreaming poor pirati

For poor look in your 3rd world country (which is apparently going to remain in that way), you got plenty there.

instead bringing leaders on negotiation table

Our human rights are not negotiable. You are unfortunately unwilling to negotiate anything that doesn't involve the violation of our human rights.

Also i cant guarante we dont want to take the rest of the island (to solve the problem aswhole) in next 100-200 years

I am sure you want too and I am sure you would do it if you had the excuse. This is why "solutions" like Annan plan that would create instability (apart from everything else) will never be accepted.

[akiner]

3rd world country ohh c'mon do u believe this, i am not expecting anything below "6"th world to define Turkey from your side, but thanx you are becoming more realist day by day:))

I am sure you want too and I am sure you would do it if you had the excuse. This is why "solutions" like Annan plan that would create instability (apart from everything else) will never be accepted.

Nay i just wrote that to create the contrast of your war-loving messages, sad again you used this comment to expose your proraganda to wash your children with it

[BirKibrisli]

Come on boys,calm down.It is the feastive season after all.
Peace for all mankind,remember?
No one is going to start another war. No one is going to attack the other side.That is all in the past.We need to build a strong feeling of security, trust and understanding,and we won't do that by talking about war.Real security comes not from knowing you are armed to the teeth,but knowing that your neighbour loves you,respects your rights as a human being,and will do anything to make sure no harm comes to you.
And there can be no trust without justice,we have to give Piratis that much.So,sooner or later when we realise that we are the same people,with a common history,common culture,common traditions and common interests,we will be halfway there.In this season of goodwill,let us all remember we are all part of that same source of life and universe,that all powerful Supreme Being,that only through loving each other can we get to a just and peaceful world.May the one that is all merciful and forgiving and compassionate guide our way to a united,just,caring,compassionate Cyprus.

[bg_turk]

For poor look in your 3rd world country (which is apparently going to remain in that way), you got plenty there.

A 3rd world country?! By what economic or social indicators do you claim Turkey is a 3rd world country? Your bitterness against Turkey is making you utter erroneous statements. I believe in the bright and progressive future of Turkey. Of course this is not in your interest, and you have the ridiculous hopes of chaning the balance of power which are just wishful thinking. In fact the balance of power in the region is changing at the moment but certainly not in your favor.
In any way it would be a bit humiliating for you and your 1st world country to be occupied by a 3rd world country.

Our human rights are not negotiable. You are unfortunately unwilling to negotiate anything that doesn't involve the violation of our human rights.

The human rights of my forefathers and all the muslims of the Balkans, the turks, the bosniaks, the pomaks, the albanians are NONNEGOTIABLE as well, but all these people have been robbed of all their land and dumped as refugees to Turkey without the slightest recourse to justice. At least appreciate the fact that the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus is giving you the right to reclaim your properties.

Besides the roc violates the rights of TCs on a daily basis by refusing them the right to reclaim their properties. So far there is not a single instance of a TC who has been able to reclaim his properties in the South. Those properties have been confiscated illegally, albeit temporarily, in direct contravention of the universal charted of human rights against the very constitution of the roc under the so called "dogma of necessity". At least GCs will soon be able to reclaim their former properties in the North. Then we will see then whose is a 3rd world country and whose a 1st world country.

Also i cant guarante we dont want to take the rest of the island (to solve the problem aswhole) in next 100-200 years

This is the stupidest statement I have heard for a while. Turkey has never, does not at the moment, and will never in the future attempt to invade the the South of the island of Cyprus, since there is no geostrategical, politic, ethnic or any other justification for such an action.

[Piratis]

3rd world country?! By what economic or social indicators do you claim Turkey is a 3rd world country?

All. http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2004 ... 04_HDI.pdf

The human rights of my forefathers and all the muslims of the Balkans, the turks, the bosniaks, the pomaks, the albanians are NONNEGOTIABLE as well, but all these people have been robbed of all their land and dumped as refugees to Turkey without the slightest recourse to justice.

And what do I have to do with your forefathers? Our land has been ours long before your forefathers existed.

Besides the roc violates the rights of TCs on a daily basis by refusing them the right to reclaim their properties

Choosing illegality has consequences. It is up to them to stop this illegality and take the 100% of what belongs to them, and at the same time return the 100% of what belongs to us. Who doesn't want all Cypriots to take the 100% of what legally belongs to them? YOU, not us. So why do you complain?

[zan]

Choosing illegality has consequences. It is up to them to stop this illegality and take the 100% of what belongs to them, and at the same time return the 100% of what belongs to us. Who doesn't want all Cypriots to take the 100% of what legally belongs to them? YOU, not us. So why do you complain?

Signing the 1960 agreement and then going against it is the start of this, so the same question to you Piratis. Makarios and Greece were the ones who started all this. Makarios thought that he was going to achieve a god like status and have his name in lights in Cyprus and Greece. Instead he has his name etched in blood into the very essence of Cyprus and its history.