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Postby 2fan » Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:08 pm

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well turkey did its job

Their job as well as the job of Greece and Britain was to guarantee Republic of Cyprus. How did they do they job??? If they had done their job the Cyprus problem would not exist. The fact that it exists means that they didn't do their job.

If they couldn't do this job, then they should not have taken it, and let Makarios and the government do it. Since they took it though, it is their responsibility, and they can not now blame Makarios because not only they didn't do their job but also funded the EOKA-B and TMT terrorists. (And Turkey continues to do so as we speak)


Let me get this straight. It was part of Turkey's job to fix the problem on your island and then depart so the GCs could go on killing sprees to avenge themselves? This is absurd. The Turkish army will remain in cyprus to guarantee the safety of TCs.

The more worrysome thing I have noticed about you is that you seem to be getting more and more hardcore. What was that Post about needing a war to get your properties back? I noticed that 11 people people on this forum voted "yes" for your idea. That is disgusting. This proves to me that there are still some very scary people in your camp. You and I both know that a war would be suicide for all concerned especially the cypriots. So why post such a stupid question?

What's this about Turkey sponsoring terrorism? Do you have any proof of this or are you pulling this information out of your ass?
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Postby Main_Source » Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:23 am

That seems to be the views of a few Greek Cypriots these days...war is the only way we will get back what belongs to us. The Turkish Cypriot demands are so over the top and they persist on wanting Greek Cypriots to allow them to step on our human rights before a solution is found.

What Turkish Cypriots want is special treatment that no other community in the world gets in any other country.

What is funny though is that people out there still think Turkey's main reason for being in Cyprus is to protect Turkish Cypriots from Greek Cypriots....even though Turkish Cypriots will very soon be a minority in their own home whilst under Turkish rule.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:38 am

Let me get this straight. It was part of Turkey's job to fix the problem on your island and then depart so the GCs could go on killing sprees to avenge themselves? This is absurd. The Turkish army will remain in cyprus to guarantee the safety of TCs.

If turkey could not fix the problem then why she took the role of the Guarantor of RoC? That was her role, and she didn't do anything in that respect.

What she did was to find an excuse to invade an illegally occupy part of my country. The Turks have committed the grossest of crimes in Cyprus for centuries. You should be the last one to be talking about "killing sprees" of GCs, since killing part of your expertise.

What was that Post about needing a war to get your properties back?

The question was: "Winning a war is the only way all GC refugees can return?" What would you answer to this question?
If you would answer "no" then I am very interested to listen of your alternative proposal of how all GCs refugees can return.

That is disgusting. This proves to me that there are still some very scary people in your camp.

If you call like that people that want their own land back, then how do you call the people that went to war and insist on using force to steal the land of others?

You and I both know that a war would be suicide for all concerned especially the cypriots. So why post such a stupid question?

I never asked for a war. I asked if winning a war is the only way for all refugees to return to their homes. You understand the difference, right?

What's this about Turkey sponsoring terrorism? Do you have any proof of this or are you pulling this information out of your ass?

What more proof do you want than the Turkish army that is using terror to keep 200.000 people out of their own homes?
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Postby 2fan » Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:43 am

Main_Source wrote:That seems to be the views of a few Greek Cypriots these days...war is the only way we will get back what belongs to us. The Turkish Cypriot demands are so over the top and they persist on wanting Greek Cypriots to allow them to step on our human rights before a solution is found.

What Turkish Cypriots want is special treatment that no other community in the world gets in any other country.

What is funny though is that people out there still think Turkey's main reason for being in Cyprus is to protect Turkish Cypriots from Greek Cypriots....even though Turkish Cypriots will very soon be a minority in their own home whilst under Turkish rule.



And who would you send to such a war Source? Would you attend? Or would you rather be in the background with pirates sending innocent Gcs and Greeks to the front. You and Pirates wouldn't know how to fight your way out of a wet paper bag much less stand in the way of bullets. Do you know what would happen? Especially if you start this war? You guys really disgust me. My gun is bigger than your gun, my people are braver than yours? What will you tell the the mothers of the dead after you get your ass kicked again? What will you and Pirates tell the mothers of ALL the dead after you start a war that will not simply involve TCs and GCs?

Your immaturity is so blatant I feel sorry for you.
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Postby 2fan » Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:58 am

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Let me get this straight. It was part of Turkey's job to fix the problem on your island and then depart so the GCs could go on killing sprees to avenge themselves? This is absurd. The Turkish army will remain in cyprus to guarantee the safety of TCs.

If turkey could not fix the problem then why she took the role of the Guarantor of RoC? That was her role, and she didn't do anything in that respect.

What she did was to find an excuse to invade an illegally occupy part of my country. The Turks have committed the grossest of crimes in Cyprus for centuries. You should be the last one to be talking about "killing sprees" of GCs, since killing part of your expertise.

What was that Post about needing a war to get your properties back?

The question was: "Winning a war is the only way all GC refugees can return?" What would you answer to this question?
If you would answer "no" then I am very interested to listen of your alternative proposal of how all GCs refugees can return.

That is disgusting. This proves to me that there are still some very scary people in your camp.

If you call like that people that want their own land back, then how do you call the people that went to war and insist on using force to steal the land of others?

You and I both know that a war would be suicide for all concerned especially the cypriots. So why post such a stupid question?

I never asked for a war. I asked if winning a war is the only way for all refugees to return to their homes. You understand the difference, right?

What's this about Turkey sponsoring terrorism? Do you have any proof of this or are you pulling this information out of your ass?

What more proof do you want than the Turkish army that is using terror to keep 200.000 people out of their own homes?


The simple truth Pirate is that you are full of shit up to your eyeballs. You are COMPLETELY BRAINWASHED along with Source. Why don't you try and set up a meeting between GCs and TCs to hear their views. Imagine that. TCs and GCs eating together, drinking together and leaving door of communications open instead of speaking of war. Silly silly boy!
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Postby Piratis » Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:59 am

What will you tell the the mothers of the dead after you get your ass kicked again?

Don't worry 2fan, we are not stupid. We will not start a war today or tomorrow. But be sure that we will take our land back sooner or later. The balance of power never stays the same. I hope you know that. The day will come that we will simply ask one question: "Will you give us our land back within 24 hours?". Hopefully you will not be stupid either, and you will give back what you stole from us.
Until then you can keep your illegal pseudo puppet state (and forget EU etc).
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Postby 2fan » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:06 am

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What will you tell the the mothers of the dead after you get your ass kicked again?

Don't worry 2fan, we are not stupid. We will not start a war today or tomorrow. But be sure that we will take our land back sooner or later. The balance of power never stays the same. I hope you know that. The day will come that we will simply ask one question: "Will you give us our land back within 24 hours?". Hopefully you will not be stupid either, and you will give back what you stole from us.
Until then you can keep your illegal pseudo puppet state (and forget EU etc).


Your agenda becomes clearer with each passing day. You want to take back the north by violence because your leaders' bullshit lies have been found out and you can't have the lands back politically.

You didn't answer my question Pirate. Will you join the war or will you sit behind a computer along with source and hide? You are a big pussy! I can see you shaking now at the thought of grabbing a gun and declaring war against Turks.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:20 am

You want to take back the north by violence because your leaders' bullshit lies have been found out and you can't have the lands back politically.

We can't have it back because there is an illegal occupation army. The war started in 1974 when Turkey invaded the Sovereign nation of Republic of Cyprus and has not ended since then. (what we have now is a cease fire)
Who insists on war is you, by insisting on the illegal occupation. You could end this war by ending the illegal occupation but you don't do that.

Republic of Cyprus has every right to take back its own land. War is of course the last way we will use. Unfortunately you ignored international law, you ignored UN resolutions calling for the respect of sovereignty of RoC and you ignored the ECHR rulings that prove that all GCs refugees have the right to return to their own homes.

When you insist on war, you insist on ethnic cleansing, you insist on human rights violations and you insist on illegality, how can you accuse us when the only thing we want is our own land along with human and democratic rights for every Cypriot citizen?
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Postby 2fan » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:30 am

Piratis wrote:
You want to take back the north by violence because your leaders' bullshit lies have been found out and you can't have the lands back politically.

We can't have it back because there is an illegal occupation army. The war started in 1974 when Turkey invaded the Sovereign nation of Republic of Cyprus and has not ended since then. (what we have now is a cease fire)
Who insists on war is you, by insisting on the illegal occupation. You could end this war by ending the illegal occupation but you don't do that.

Republic of Cyprus has every right to take back its own land. War is of course the last way we will use. Unfortunately you ignored international law, you ignored UN resolutions calling for the respect of sovereignty of RoC and you ignored the ECHR rulings that prove that all GCs refugees have the right to return to their own homes.

When you insist on war, you insist on ethnic cleansing, you insist on human rights violations and you insist on illegality, how can you accuse us when the only thing we want is our own land along with human and democratic rights for every Cypriot citizen?



You keep regurgeting the same old BS Pirates. Who is the one speaking of war or roumors of war. It is you!!!! You keep speaking of human rights. What about the human rights of TCs? Do the rights of these people not account for anything? My argument is that if one SINGLE person was displced it is too much. You keep on feeding me statistics. Do you not get the difference? 50,000....100000, 200000? You would start a war to get these peoples homes back and what I am telling you is that you will lose soooooo fucking bad that your ancestors will roll over in their graves. Wake up and smell the Turkish coffee.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:30 am

Will you join the war or will you sit behind a computer along with source and hide? You are a big pussy! I can see you shaking now at the thought of grabbing a gun and declaring war against Turks.

I have my riffle and 200 bullets right behind me and I will defend my country if I have to.

I never said that a war should be made now. What I said is very logical: When you have the power you can insist on illegality, which is what you are doing now. When your power will run out (and it will sooner or later) you will not be able to enforce this illegality anymore.
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