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[cypezokyli]

you would apply too kifeas ?

[BirKibrisli]

Delight is the secret.And the secret is this: to grow quiet and listen;to stop thinking,stop moving,almost to stop breathing;to create an inner stillness in which,like mouse in a deserted house,capacities and awarenesses too wayward and too figutive for everyday use may delicately emmerge.
-Alan McGlashan

Perhaps our glorious leaders should practise this every morning and every evening before going to sleep.They might find their way to a solution then.

[Kifeas]

I know exactly...what will happen to the first Dikaiopolis who ll apply to the Committee to get his land and compensation i wonder......

Nothing will happen!!!! If the ECHR finds the committee as an acceptable preliminary-internal remedy mechanism, then I will also apply to it and should I emerge unsatisfied after it, then I will continue my case to the ECHR. Why something should happen to me, and by whom???

Please save what you have just written Kifeas..We ll talk again if this goes through...

Alexis, please!!! Get to know the subjects you are talking about first, and then say anything!!!

[Kifeas]

you would apply too kifeas ?

Why not!!! If the ECHR determines this (I do not think so, but let's assume it will) to be a prerequired stage before appealing to them against Turkey, then why not!!! What will be the problem????

[cypezokyli]

our leaders : quiet and listen ?

we wouldnt vote for them.

who would entertain us everynight at the 830 tv news ?

[Alexios]

I didnt know you followed Greek poetry Zan...)) Anyhow, the Barbarians are any excuse not to sit down and deal with the serious matters in politics..we have no solution and we seek any excuse not to find one...unfortunately no solution seems to fit out Politicians nicely. Take away the Cyprus problem and as i have said before, most of them in a politically mature country wouldnt be able to get elected even as village mouhtars...

Is this the reason why we have no solution as yet??? C'mon, you and your "ambelosofies"!!! (cracked-barrel philosophies!)
You have a very simplistic mind Alexios! Sorry!!!

I ll pretend you never said that Kifeas.Its part of my simplistic mind...

Pretend or not, I make no sense of what you are saying sometimes!

I will repeat it then.A lot of politicians simply have no reason to exist if a solution is reached.They have built political carreers on the problem and if that is taken away they will be absolutely nothing.I include T/C politicians just to be clear...I think this fact has a lot to do with not reaching a solution so far.

[Alexios]

I know exactly...what will happen to the first Dikaiopolis who ll apply to the Committee to get his land and compensation i wonder......

Nothing will happen!!!! If the ECHR finds the committee as an acceptable preliminary-internal remedy mechanism, then I will also apply to it and should I emerge unsatisfied after it, then I will continue my case to the ECHR. Why something should happen to me, and by whom???

Please save what you have just written Kifeas..We ll talk again if this goes through...

Alexis, please!!! Get to know the subjects you are talking about first, and then say anything!!!

Can we just wait and see???? I state here that even if the ECHR finds the committe finds the committee an acceptable preliminary internal remedy mechanism as you stated, the first people who will apply will be branded as traitors including yourself. If you are a betting man, i bet you a donum of land in Polis....

[Kifeas]

I didnt know you followed Greek poetry Zan...)) Anyhow, the Barbarians are any excuse not to sit down and deal with the serious matters in politics..we have no solution and we seek any excuse not to find one...unfortunately no solution seems to fit out Politicians nicely. Take away the Cyprus problem and as i have said before, most of them in a politically mature country wouldnt be able to get elected even as village mouhtars...

Is this the reason why we have no solution as yet??? C'mon, you and your "ambelosofies"!!! (cracked-barrel philosophies!)
You have a very simplistic mind Alexios! Sorry!!!

I ll pretend you never said that Kifeas.Its part of my simplistic mind...

Pretend or not, I make no sense of what you are saying sometimes!

I will repeat it then.A lot of politicians simply have no reason to exist if a solution is reached.They have built political carreers on the problem and if that is taken away they will be absolutely nothing.I include T/C politicians just to be clear...I think this fact has a lot to do with not reaching a solution so far.

Alexios, please!!! This is an over simplification and you should have known it!!! It constitutes hubris to say the least, to claim that the reason why so many thousands of people are kept refugees and property-less for 32 years now, is simply because our political leadership doesn’t want to solve the problem. Please!!!!! Some of those politicians (members of our political leadership,) that you are talking about, are refugees themselves and /or they and their families (parents, bothers, sisters, Relatives, etc,) are victims of the non-solution. Why would those people be part of the conspiracy, as you suggest it, for not having a solution, just for the reasons you mentioned? Please stop talking nonsense!!!!

[Alexios]

I didnt know you followed Greek poetry Zan...)) Anyhow, the Barbarians are any excuse not to sit down and deal with the serious matters in politics..we have no solution and we seek any excuse not to find one...unfortunately no solution seems to fit out Politicians nicely. Take away the Cyprus problem and as i have said before, most of them in a politically mature country wouldnt be able to get elected even as village mouhtars...

Is this the reason why we have no solution as yet??? C'mon, you and your "ambelosofies"!!! (cracked-barrel philosophies!)
You have a very simplistic mind Alexios! Sorry!!!

I ll pretend you never said that Kifeas.Its part of my simplistic mind...

Pretend or not, I make no sense of what you are saying sometimes!

I will repeat it then.A lot of politicians simply have no reason to exist if a solution is reached.They have built political carreers on the problem and if that is taken away they will be absolutely nothing.I include T/C politicians just to be clear...I think this fact has a lot to do with not reaching a solution so far.

Alexios, please!!! This is an over simplification and you should have known it!!! It constitutes hubris to say the least, to claim that the reason why so many thousands of people are kept refugees and property-less for 32 years now, is simply because our political leadership doesn’t want to solve the problem. Please!!!!! Some of those politicians (members of our political leadership,) that you are talking about, are refugees themselves and /or they and their families (parents, bothers, sisters, Relatives, etc,) are victims of the non-solution. Why would those people be part of the conspiracy, as you suggest it, for not having a solution, just for the reasons you mentioned? Please stop talking nonsense!!!!

First of all I never spoke of a conspiracy.As for our politicians, really Kifeas..Do you honstly believe they care more about their relatives and friends..refugees or not?? Or risking political carreers?? You have too much faith in them i am afraid...Remember..just 14 years of self rule have managed to do more harm than thousands of years of foreign rule...Doesnt that say anything to you???!!!

[Kifeas]

I know exactly...what will happen to the first Dikaiopolis who ll apply to the Committee to get his land and compensation i wonder......

Nothing will happen!!!! If the ECHR finds the committee as an acceptable preliminary-internal remedy mechanism, then I will also apply to it and should I emerge unsatisfied after it, then I will continue my case to the ECHR. Why something should happen to me, and by whom???

Please save what you have just written Kifeas..We ll talk again if this goes through...

Alexis, please!!! Get to know the subjects you are talking about first, and then say anything!!!

Can we just wait and see???? I state here that even if the ECHR finds the committe finds the committee an acceptable preliminary internal remedy mechanism as you stated, the first people who will apply will be branded as traitors including yourself. If you are a betting man, i bet you a donum of land in Polis....

Okay then!! Perhaps you can also explain to me on what basis they will be branded as traitors?? What will be the material basis of their treason? The committee will not be accepted as a TRNC internal remedy mechanism, but one to be under Turkey's jurisdiction. Therefore there is not going to be an issue of indirectly recognising the TRNC, if someone applies to such a committee. What is the problem? Is Titina Loizidou a traitor for accepting Turkey's check payment as compensation?