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[Lordo]

tactical withdraw indeed, you can dress it up with make-up all you like. you got bitch slapped.

[Paphitis]

tactical withdraw indeed, you can dress it up with make-up all you like. you got bitch slapped.

Tactical yes. It wasn't because they were losing.

Attaturk was engaging in a war of attrition. In the end, Turkey was knocked out of the war while the ANZACs withdraw and joined another 300,000 ANZAC troops at the Western Front where the defeated Germany under the command of General Monash. A brilliant officer who turned the war around for the allies.

This was a man who revolutionized warfare.

You lost the war. Accept it!

[Lordo]

your stupidity is beyond belief. your friends objective was to take the dardanelles and having killed over hundred thousand men you retreated back to europe without takeing them.

without russia you would have got bitchslapped by the germans too. of course you take the crredit for beating the germans when all of the west were fighint 4 divisions in europe and the russians were fighting 150 division in the east. boy are you ignorant or what.

[Paphitis]

Another unteresting fact about Monash. He was responsible for smashing through the German Lines.

He was most feared by the Germans.

He was also a Jew! It's interesting to note that the Germans blame the Jews for the loss of WW1. Could that be partly because of General Monash?

Could he partly be blamed for the vengeance the NAZIs inflicted upon the Jews in WW2.

This guy should have been in charge at Gallipoli.

[Paphitis]

your stupidity is beyond belief. your friends objective was to take the dardanelles and having killed over hundred thousand men you retreated back to europe without takeing them.

without russia you would have got bitchslapped by the germans too. of course you take the crredit for beating the germans when all of the west were fighint 4 divisions in europe and the russians were fighting 150 division in the east. boy are you ignorant or what.

The main objective was to take Turkey out of the war. Considering the fact Turkey didn't venture from its borders after Gallipoli, would indicate that this objective was fulfilled. It kept you very busy for a long time and unable to have an impact on WW1 whilst the ANZACs fought with distinction across Europe and were instrumental in the defeat of the Germans.

Turkey is another country that likes to manufacture its history.

[Lordo]

terggy was in condition to attack anybody. if anything she was losing land left right and centre before canakkale. you really have some stupid ideas.

[Paphitis]

terggy was in condition to attack anybody. if anything she was losing land left right and centre before canakkale. you really have some stupid ideas.

We made certain of that!

Then we went on to take care of the Germans and that is exactly what happened.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_monash

ANZACs under Australian command 4ever! Amen!

We wrote a glorious history on the battlefield and yet Gallipoli is still considered the centerpiece of the Australian or ANZAC spirit when it could have been France because they truly smashed the Germans.

[Kikapu]

I am pretty sure any attempt by Turkey to politicize this will have an impact on their relationship with Australia, and I am sure some words would be exchanged and probably not very nice words at that.

But Turkey has politicized Gallipoli this year by having it on the same dates as the Armenians commemorate their genocide by the Ottomans. This was a deliberate attempt by Turkey to "steal" away some heads of states from Armenia, and it has worked with the Aussies and the Kiwis. Had Gallipoli commemorations were to be held in March as always, I'm almost certain Australian and Kiwi leaders would have been in Armenia during their commemoration. I'm afraid the Aussie and Kiwi leaders bent over to Turkey on this one. But that aside, will the Aussie and Kiwi leaders ever recognize the Armenian Genocide by the Ottomans? Not if what we saw this week by the Aussie and Kiwi leaders are any indication in pleasing Turkey we surely won’t. They should have told Turkey to get stuffed when Turkey changed the usual dates of Gallipoli from March to April by politicizing it. I'm sorry my friend, but the Aussie and Kiwi leaders should have either gone to Armenia this week or just stayed home, but not to Gallipoli.

[Paphitis]

I am pretty sure any attempt by Turkey to politicize this will have an impact on their relationship with Australia, and I am sure some words would be exchanged and probably not very nice words at that.

But Turkey has politicized Gallipoli this year by having it on the same dates as the Armenians commemorate their genocide by the Ottomans. This was a deliberate attempt by Turkey to "steal" away some heads of states from Armenia, and it has worked with the Aussies and the Kiwis. Had Gallipoli commemorations were to be held in March as always, I'm almost certain Australian and Kiwi leaders would have been in Armenia during their commemoration. I'm afraid the Aussie and Kiwi leaders bent over to Turkey on this one. But that aside, will the Aussie and Kiwi leaders ever recognize the Armenian Genocide by the Ottomans? Not if what we saw this week by the Aussie and Kiwi leaders are any indication in pleasing Turkey we surely won’t. They should have told Turkey to get stuffed when Turkey changed the usual dates of Gallipoli from March to April by politicizing it. I'm sorry my friend, but the Aussie and Kiwi leaders should have either gone to Armenia this week or just stayed home, but not to Gallipoli.

No they haven't.

Turkey always commemorates their falken1 day before ANZAC Day. They are as entitled to do so as anyone else is.

The 100th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide went ahead on the same day and the 100th anniversary of the Gallipoli Landing is a day after that.

Gallipoli was always going to attract some Heads of State from countries like UK, France, Ireland, India, Nepal, Australia and NZ.

It's just unfortunate the 2 pretty much collide albeit 1 day apart.

Having said this, any attempt by Turkey to politicize ANZAC day is something Australia and NZ will not be a party too.

Both countries had sent their representatives to Armenia.

[Kikapu]

Turkey eclipses centenary of Armenian massacre by moving Gallipoli memorial

Change of date by Ankara, which leads to a clash of commemoration ceremonies, condemned as ‘indecent manoeuvre’

Turkey has been accused of belittling the imminent centenary of the Armenian genocide by advancing its Gallipoli commemorations to the same day.

The anniversary of the 1915 military operations on the Gallipoli peninsula has always been marked on 25 April, the day after commemorations of the massacre of more than 1 million Armenians in the Ottoman empire. This year, however, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has invited state leaders to join him in Gallipoli on 24 April.

“This is a very indecent political manoeuvre,” said Ohannes Kılıçdağı, a researcher and writer for Agos, an Armenian weekly. “It’s cheap politics to try to dissolve the pressure on Turkey in the year of the centennial by organising this event.

“Everybody knows that the two memorials around Gallipoli have been held on 18 March and 25 April every year.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/a ... e-genocide