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[Lordo]

he better join the queue, there is quite a few people who wish to have a quiet word with the old man and he better have his i pad ready for taking notes.

[miltiades]

Thelima tou theou yie mou, the priest told me as I was kneeling at my mums side, laid on the bare concrete, dead she most certainly was, half of her head had disintegrated. Almost 62 years ago but I remember every second of this macabre event. I believed the priest but not for long. I soon begun searching for answers, why would god want to kill my mother and leave 4 children orphans, in a small village of people who worshipped god, church going and NAIVE ! YES NAIVE.

It soon dawned on me that the priest was not telling the truth. There is no, never has been and never will be a god. Just as man created medicine, metals that fly, the telephone, the TV, the marvel that internet is , so did prehistoric man created these absurd nonsense.

Long may your non existent god look after you, just as he looked after my mother, my late wife, my late sister and many more who suffer from this " god created cancer " !

GR is and always will be a fucking psycho, so naturally he is a ...believer !!

My heart bleeds for you my friend. I wouldn't wish what you went through on anybody. You and GR are both class acts, if only you could understand and be a touch more tolerant with one another.

Nice to see you back M.
Its vey difficult to come to terms with a man who on numerous occasions has insulted my dead wif, dead mother, recently asking me to go and fuck her corpse !!!

One of the principles on any forum is that you never attack or insult anyones family. I dont like this psychopath, I totally detest his views, however in view of his pronounced illness I take all that he says with a pinch of salt.

[Paphitis]

One of the most intelligent/knowledgeable people in the world.

Stephen Fry's furious rant about God: 'He is utterly monstrous, selfish and deserves no respect'

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-n ... od-5072065

Well said!

There is a poll at the end of the article and so far 70% voted that they agree with his views. I wonder what would be the result if only Cypriots were voting!

Please stop agreeing with this.

I am starting to get a complex!

I am surprised that you are not religious. People who like to blindly obey rules and who have irrational beliefs are usually religious.

I am surprised that as an Atheist you have no principles or respect for yourself and fellow man.

You don't give a damn about the Cypriot Economy. All your interested in is yourself and that is why you want the CNG disbanded. You are playing right into Turkey's hands and I very much doubt you have family or children because no one in the right mind would wish slavery and bondage upon them.

You're a very silly person with no morals or values!

[Atheist]

Once again your accusations do not follow any kind of logic. You exhibit all the elements of a fanatic who is having no arguments to support his irrational beliefs and resorts to baseless personal attacks.

It is exactly because I respect myself that I never blindly follow orders and I do not show any unwarranted respect to authority.

On the other hand you seem to believe that obedience to authority without ever questioning it is a moral value. That is exactly the kind of a "moral value" that a theist would have. Atheists have critical minds, they do not blindly follow orders.

Accusing others of "no morals" just because they disagree with you is again something that religious people often do.

Cyprus would be much safer without an army and without mindless soldiers who would take part in a coup just because they were ordered to. If some of those soldiers had used their brains instead of blindly following orders then the Cyprus disaster could have been averted.

[Paphitis]

Once again your accusations do not follow any kind of logic. You exhibit all the elements of a fanatic who is having no arguments to support his irrational beliefs and resorts to baseless personal attacks.

It is exactly because I respect myself that I never blindly follow orders and I do not show any unwarranted respect to authority.

On the other hand you seem to believe that obedience to authority without ever questioning it is a moral value. That is exactly the kind of a "moral value" that a theist would have. Atheists have critical minds, they do not blindly follow orders.

Accusing others of "no morals" just because they disagree with you is again something that religious people often do.

Cyprus would be much safer without an army and without mindless soldiers who would take part in a coup just because they were ordered to. If some of those soldiers had used their brains instead of blindly following orders then the Cyprus disaster could have been averted.

Cyprus would be a vassal state for the dustbin and a sitting duck without the CNG.

Yes you have no morals because you stated that you're wasting your time, however the CNG is a big detterent to war and it is responsible for defending the remaining 63% from a ruthless aggressor that is just waiting for its opportunity. Never in my life have I met such an unpatriotic person who doesn't give a stuff about Cyprus.

In other countries, the military is a source of pride. History has been written and some countries came of age on the battlefield and developed an identity and a legend. Many stories and a mateship that is eternal. I don't know what you do for a living but nothing is more sacred for a young man when they serve their country.

You also criticize the monimoi but I am sorry but you have no right to do so. They dedicate their life, for little reward, so that you have the freedom to conduct your business. You have nothing without them so the least you can do is be thankful for the protection they provide for you because without them you won't have a home let alone a business.

An Officer has a genuine love for their subordinates even if it does not seem so. He would do anything for them, and protect them. It's this love that drives some very extraordinary feats of bravery and selfless acts for your fellow soldiers. That is what you do not comprehend or understand.

That is how 108 can defeat 2500. Soldiers would drag their mates from the mud under a hail of fire. It's probably insane but how can you leave a brother behind?

[Atheist]

The Turkish troops stopped themselves at 37% because partition was their aim and they got exactly how much they wanted. So the CNG had absolutely nothing to do with the 63% of Cyprus remaining free. On the contrary the coup by the CNG is what gave the excuse for Turkey to invade, so the "achievement" of CNG is giving 37% of Cyprus to the Turks.

I judge CNG by their actual record, which has caused nothing else than disasters (coup, Mari), lots of waste of money and time and absolutely nothing positive.

On the other hand you base your views on nothing more than wishful thinking and your desire for "legends" and "stories".

You haven't even served in the CNG and yet you choose to imagine how the CNG Officers are, which is even more wishful thinking.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Turkey would have invaded, CNG or no CNG. But the fact remains we need the CNG now more than ever as a nucleus for the EU (France, Greece etc even Russia) to have a basis for their joint military manoeuvres and suchlike - which, given the right time, will swoop to remove the Turks.

[Paphitis]

The Turkish troops stopped themselves at 37% because partition was their aim and they got exactly how much they wanted. So the CNG had absolutely nothing to do with the 63% of Cyprus remaining free. On the contrary the coup by the CNG is what gave the excuse for Turkey to invade, so the "achievement" of CNG is giving 37% of Cyprus to the Turks.

I judge CNG by their actual record, which has caused nothing else than disasters (coup, Mari), lots of waste of money and time and absolutely nothing positive.

On the other hand you base your views on nothing more than wishful thinking and your desire for "legends" and "stories".

You haven't even served in the CNG and yet you choose to imagine how the CNG Officers are, which is even more wishful thinking.

Turkey's ambitions are to annex the entire island. They simply were not allowed in the beginning, but you do not know when that might change. What is certain is that they do not want a solution which will prevent them from realizing their ambition in the future.

My wife's Uncle is a Colonel. Apparently he is in the top 5 of the CNG. I know what they are like. No different to an Officer of the Greek Military or an Officer of the Australian Military. They are not even trained in Cyprus. They are trained in Greece and the Greek Military is highly respected by all.

Your argument has no logic. Firstly, a country like Australia should have no military because technically there are no real threats to Australia. Yet Australia is the 8th biggest Defence spender on the planet. Cyprus however has significant threats to its sovereignty. All you need is a blood rush and their occupation forces may violate the ceasefire. They will certainly be a lot closer to making such a decision should there be no deterrent.

[Paphitis]

Turkey would have invaded, CNG or no CNG. But the fact remains we need the CNG now more than ever as a nucleus for the EU (France, Greece etc even Russia) to have a basis for their joint military manoeuvres and suchlike - which, given the right time, will swoop to remove the Turks.

Why would France or Russia swoop? How the hell can it swoop and attack a NATO country?

Why would Russia swoop when it is that far up Turkey's arse!

We are on our own. Which is why we need a strong CNG.

Maybe Greece might do something. Big maybe.

[Get Real!]

I judge CNG by their actual record, which has caused nothing else than disasters (coup, Mari), lots of waste of money and time and absolutely nothing positive.

Your constant comparison of today's NG with the NG of 1974 is laughable. In 1974 they had nothing to fight with and their size was laughable too.