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[Atheist]

I disagree with pretty much everything that you said but there is no reason to keep repeating myself.

The way you put it we may as well just go and kill ourselves to save Turkey the hasslle FFS.

Hade man the Fuck up, if you want to bend over with your trousers down ready to receive a Turkish soujouk then do so, but pleaseeeeee, don't expect the rest of us to do the same. We are 'Axoi' to stand and fight even in the face of defeat, we will do what we can.

The CNG should be reinforced by taxing other areas, especially Athiest who talk shit, little fucking cowards that want to surrender before Turkey even says Boo!

Tax the crossing points, tax the TC taxis that come to Larnaca, Tax the carpet baggers that come to Larnaca/Paphos then go over, look for other areas to tax to raise further funds for the CNG. Long Live the CNG.

B25, if you Christian Orthodox (the 99% of Cypriots according to the census) are so brave then how come 1/3rd of Cyprus is occupied by Turkey? Why did you run away in 1974 instead of fighting? If you were as brave us you claim then today either Cyprus would be free or you would have all died while fighting.

The Turkish soujouk is already in your ass, but apparently that ass of yours is so loose you can't even fill it anymore. The CNG couldn't even serve as a condom to protect you even a tiny little bit. It hasn't managed to stop the Turks from getting exactly what they wanted in 1974, not even an inch of Cyprus territory was protected by CNG. The Turks got everything they wanted to get. They didn't take Strovillia in 74 because they thought they were part of the SBAs, but then in the year 2000 they expanded their occupation to include Strovillia. The CNG was again totally useless. And now the Turks are provoking Cyprus by repeatedly penetrating our EEZ and the CNG is again a joke that can be ignored.

The only thing done by the CNG is the coup which gave the Turks an excuse to invade, plus wasting millions of euro and our time. We would have been far better off without the CNG (maybe even without a Turkish occupation) and that is a historical fact that unfortunately you are too stupid to realize.

[Get Real!]

So Atheist, your solution to this problem is total capitulation by disbanding the CNG altogether… better sooner than later!

By some bizarre logic an absence of the CNG will make the Turkish occupier either disappear, or be more lenient with you, or I don’t know what you’re thinking.

I’ll tell you what’s gonna happen… if with the existence of the CNG they added Strovillia to the list of occupied towns and villages, then without the CNG you’ll have to move country altogether in 48 hours I’m afraid!

[Lordo]

I did not know about strovillia, i have learnt something new today.

de-militarise cyprus - griik, terggish, mucahid and cng can all go get a proper jobs rather then make stupid plans and plot to destroy cyprus.

[Get Real!]

I did not know about strovillia, i have learnt something new today.

de-militarise cyprus - griik, terggish, mucahid and cng can all go get a proper jobs rather then make stupid plans and plot to destroy cyprus.

So why don’t you demilitarize the occupied territory of Cyprus so that the Turks can go back home and get better jobs?

[Atheist]

So Atheist, your solution to this problem is total capitulation by disbanding the CNG altogether… better sooner than later!

By some bizarre logic an absence of the CNG will make the Turkish occupier either disappear, or be more lenient with you, or I don’t know what you’re thinking.

I’ll tell you what’s gonna happen… if with the existence of the CNG they added Strovillia to the list of occupied towns and villages, then without the CNG you’ll have to move country altogether in 48 hours I’m afraid!

The Turkish occupier will be exactly the same with or without the CNG. The only thing that would change is that we would be saving millions of euro and we wouldn't waste our time on something totally useless.

To the Turks the greater cost for their occupation is a political one. If the only cost was sacrificing a few more of their troops then they would have done just that and they would have taken the whole of Cyprus long time ago.

I gave the example of South Ossetia earlier. Georgian troops took South Ossetia which is officially part of Georgia. Then the Russian army came, took South Ossetia, destroyed the Georgian army in 5 days, and on top of that occupied several other Georgian territories. Later Russia gave back to Georgia those other territories voluntarily, not because they were afraid of the already defeated Georgian army, but because they didn't want to face the international political consequences (sanctions etc) just for occupying a few Georgian cities.

[Nikitas]

Atheist, you keep bringing up the 1974 conflict as a valid predictor of the way any future conflict will be fought.

It is not similar at all. Firstly the orientation of the NG back then was inward, it was trained, equipped and directed to win a fight with the Cypriot Police force and Auxiliary Units (Efedriko) and not with a foreign invader.

Just one example of equipment- the rifles carried by CNG men, first world war Lee Enfields, capable of firing one shot every two seconds, compared to the 10 shots per second of the Turkish FN rifles.

Even with this poorly equipped CNG, when led and directed properly the Turks failed to fully surround Nicosia. The CNG did not run away as you put it. Troops surrendered when they ran out of ammunition or were overrun by armour. Check your facts on this. Ask people who were taken prisoner and survived. I have stalked with people captured in Mia Milia and Kythrea. They were armed with ten bullets each and a bazooka with two training rockets, ie totally useless against tanks. They did not run away, they were captured and spent six months in Adana.

Why do we not attack and recapture the occupied territories? Because an all out war has terrible costs for the winner. More so in the case of Cyprus. There are no major strategic targets for the Turkish air force to bomb, so most of the bombing will be tactical or psywar, ie population centers. We are not ready for that kind of losses, yet.

To give up the CNG will be akin to lowering our pants and holding a bucket of vaseline.

Now as to the economy, we need a drastic reorientation away from tourism and "development" of land resources. The Mediterranean is exploding with unsold apartments, villas, condos, etc. That "model" is out. We need to find new ways to create wealth.

[Paphitis]

Why are atheists pussies? Are they afraid of losing their precious little pathetic atheist life?

You just had one idiot that thought it was a bright idea to call himself an Atheist and then spread shit about the CNG.

[Paphitis]

So Atheist, your solution to this problem is total capitulation by disbanding the CNG altogether… better sooner than later!

By some bizarre logic an absence of the CNG will make the Turkish occupier either disappear, or be more lenient with you, or I don’t know what you’re thinking.

I’ll tell you what’s gonna happen… if with the existence of the CNG they added Strovillia to the list of occupied towns and villages, then without the CNG you’ll have to move country altogether in 48 hours I’m afraid!

I have to agree with Atheist on one thing! There has to be something seriously wrong with the CNG to be churning out so many pussies. What the hell do you guys do in the CNG - pull your dicks all day long?

The CNG should be so hard, then every single recruit should feel they have conquered Mt Everest after they have completed their service.

[Atheist]

Nikitas, as the Cypriot saying goes "η οκκά τετρακόσια". The result is what counts and the result of a war between Turkey of 80.000.000 and Cyprus of 800.000 will always be the same, in 1974, in 2014 or in 2054. It seems that your feelings overpower your common sense. If we took those unreasonable feelings out of the equation, and talked about for example Russia VS Georgia, would you need to check the bravery of the Georgians or what riffles they have to know that this is a war they will lose with absolute certainty?

To give up the CNG will be akin to lowering our pants and holding a bucket of vaseline.

So you believe that our pants are currently around our waist? The Turks are already screwing us for 40+ years already. The CNG was not able to prevent the screwing and has not been able to stop it.

Any damage we cause to Turkey and any small victories we have, those are all political and legal.

We are not ready for that kind of losses, yet.

And if we were we wouldn't win anything back but we would be turned into Palestinians.

[Atheist]

Why are atheists pussies? Are they afraid of losing their precious little pathetic atheist life?

You just had one idiot that thought it was a bright idea to call himself an Atheist and then spread shit about the CNG.

Are you calling me idiot?

Did you serve in the CNG Paphitis?