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Postby Atheist » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:05 am

In 2011 I started this thread regarding religion in Cyprus: cyprus36066.html and during the 2011 census I noted the following:

The interviewer for the census came a few days ago to my home. To the relevant question he selected himself "Orthodox Christian" while asking "Orthodox Christian, right?" to which I answered that I was atheist. He then went on to select the option "Other" from the religion list.

Apparently there is no "Atheist" or "None" option, so atheists and non-religious people are all counted as being believers in some "other" religion, which is of course incorrect.

My conclusions from my personal experience as well as the experiences of relatives and other people who contacted me:

1. The interviewers made assumptions and filled several of the questions themselves. This will result in the census showing a greater number of "Orthodox Christian" than the real number since the " Orthodox Christian" option was often assumed when interviewing Greek Cypriots.

2. There was no option in the census for Atheists and non-religious people. I will wait and see if in the results of this census they will publish numbers for Atheists and non-religious people.

cyprus36066-110.html#p697944

End of November 2014 the statistical service published the results of the census regarding religion, and lo and behold there is an "ATHEIST/NO RELIGION" category even though no such option was available to me (or anybody else that I know) during the census interview, even when I specifically asked for it!
http://www.cystat.gov.cy/mof/cystat/sta ... ub=2&sel=2

So the question is how the Statistical Service could come up with a number for something that was not available as an option to the people? They obviously made it up! According to the fake results there are only 1062 Cypriots who are "Atheists/Non-religious"!

If they could fake the numbers in this particular case then they could fake anything else they want as well, trashing the trustworthiness of their Service.
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Re: Fake Cyprus census results

Postby Get Real! » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:17 am

Same goes for ethnicity… he assumed “Greek Cypriot” because we spoke in Greek and I said “No, just plain Cypriot…” but there was no such option!

Stats in Cyprus are a charade; just a load of propaganda as per usual.
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Re: Fake Cyprus census results

Postby Atheist » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:30 am

Get Real! wrote:Same goes for ethnicity… he assumed “Greek Cypriot” because we spoke in Greek and I said “No, just plain Cypriot…” but there was no such option!

Stats in Cyprus are a charade; just a load of propaganda as per usual.


Now imagine if a "Cypriot" ethnicity category showed up in the results with some fake made up number even though there was no option for it!
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Re: Fake Cyprus census results

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:57 am

Atheist wrote:In 2011 I started this thread regarding religion in Cyprus: cyprus36066.html and during the 2011 census I noted the following:

The interviewer for the census came a few days ago to my home. To the relevant question he selected himself "Orthodox Christian" while asking "Orthodox Christian, right?" to which I answered that I was atheist. He then went on to select the option "Other" from the religion list.

Apparently there is no "Atheist" or "None" option, so atheists and non-religious people are all counted as being believers in some "other" religion, which is of course incorrect.

My conclusions from my personal experience as well as the experiences of relatives and other people who contacted me:

1. The interviewers made assumptions and filled several of the questions themselves. This will result in the census showing a greater number of "Orthodox Christian" than the real number since the " Orthodox Christian" option was often assumed when interviewing Greek Cypriots.

2. There was no option in the census for Atheists and non-religious people. I will wait and see if in the results of this census they will publish numbers for Atheists and non-religious people.

cyprus36066-110.html#p697944

End of November 2014 the statistical service published the results of the census regarding religion, and lo and behold there is an "ATHEIST/NO RELIGION" category even though no such option was available to me (or anybody else that I know) during the census interview, even when I specifically asked for it!
http://www.cystat.gov.cy/mof/cystat/sta ... ub=2&sel=2

So the question is how the Statistical Service could come up with a number for something that was not available as an option to the people? They obviously made it up! According to the fake results there are only 1062 Cypriots who are "Atheists/Non-religious"!

If they could fake the numbers in this particular case then they could fake anything else they want as well, trashing the trustworthiness of their Service.


Rubbish there are only 1062 Atheists in Cyprus.

If they conducted the census properly to European or International Standard, then I reckon Atheists would number anywhere between 100,000 to 300,000.

Even Get Real raises a very good point on this occasion. there should be a CYPRIOT ONLY option!!!!
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Re: Fake Cyprus census results

Postby Atheist » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:24 am

Paphitis wrote:
Atheist wrote:In 2011 I started this thread regarding religion in Cyprus: cyprus36066.html and during the 2011 census I noted the following:

The interviewer for the census came a few days ago to my home. To the relevant question he selected himself "Orthodox Christian" while asking "Orthodox Christian, right?" to which I answered that I was atheist. He then went on to select the option "Other" from the religion list.

Apparently there is no "Atheist" or "None" option, so atheists and non-religious people are all counted as being believers in some "other" religion, which is of course incorrect.

My conclusions from my personal experience as well as the experiences of relatives and other people who contacted me:

1. The interviewers made assumptions and filled several of the questions themselves. This will result in the census showing a greater number of "Orthodox Christian" than the real number since the " Orthodox Christian" option was often assumed when interviewing Greek Cypriots.

2. There was no option in the census for Atheists and non-religious people. I will wait and see if in the results of this census they will publish numbers for Atheists and non-religious people.

cyprus36066-110.html#p697944

End of November 2014 the statistical service published the results of the census regarding religion, and lo and behold there is an "ATHEIST/NO RELIGION" category even though no such option was available to me (or anybody else that I know) during the census interview, even when I specifically asked for it!
http://www.cystat.gov.cy/mof/cystat/sta ... ub=2&sel=2

So the question is how the Statistical Service could come up with a number for something that was not available as an option to the people? They obviously made it up! According to the fake results there are only 1062 Cypriots who are "Atheists/Non-religious"!

If they could fake the numbers in this particular case then they could fake anything else they want as well, trashing the trustworthiness of their Service.


Rubbish there are only 1062 Atheists in Cyprus.

If they conducted the census properly to European or International Standard, then I reckon Atheists would number anywhere between 100,000 to 300,000.

Even Get Real raises a very good point on this occasion. there should be a CYPRIOT ONLY option!!!!


There are no 100.000 Cypriot atheists but there are definitely much more than 1062. Also note that the 1062 number supposedly includes the "no-religion" category also, making this number even more unreal. Not only they faked the number but they choose one that is unrealistically low.
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Re: Fake Cyprus census results

Postby Sotos » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:04 am

Get Real! wrote:Same goes for ethnicity… he assumed “Greek Cypriot” because we spoke in Greek and I said “No, just plain Cypriot…” but there was no such option!


A valid option for you would be "other ethnicity". They can't make an option for every tiny minority of people. That is why the "other" option exists ;) But I am looking at the census results and I can't see anything about ethnicity. There is country of birth, citizenship, language, religion etc... but nothing about ethnicity in the results ;)
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Re: Fake Cyprus census results

Postby Get Real! » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:18 am

Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Same goes for ethnicity… he assumed “Greek Cypriot” because we spoke in Greek and I said “No, just plain Cypriot…” but there was no such option!


A valid option for you would be "other ethnicity". They can't make an option for every tiny minority of people. That is why the "other" option exists ;) But I am looking at the census results and I can't see anything about ethnicity. There is country of birth, citizenship, language, religion etc... but nothing about ethnicity in the results ;)

Maybe it's citizenship it was about... it's been a couple of years.
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Re: Fake Cyprus census results

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:55 am

Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Same goes for ethnicity… he assumed “Greek Cypriot” because we spoke in Greek and I said “No, just plain Cypriot…” but there was no such option!


A valid option for you would be "other ethnicity". They can't make an option for every tiny minority of people. That is why the "other" option exists ;) But I am looking at the census results and I can't see anything about ethnicity. There is country of birth, citizenship, language, religion etc... but nothing about ethnicity in the results ;)


Cypriot should be an Option regardless in Cyprus. You provide the option and you would be surprised at the results.

Most Cypriots I know don't have a lot of good things to say about Kalamaraes! In fact you sense a bit of hatred there, and speaking to a few Kalamaraes, I get the feeling that these sentiments are mutual towards Cypriots because of our racism and snobbery towards the Kalamaraes!

When it comes down to it, Cypriots are quite racist and discriminate just as much, if not more, than Anglos.
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Re: Fake Cyprus census results

Postby bill cobbett » Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:55 am

Situation here in GB...

Any government or council form you fill in also asks questions on ethnicity. You aren't obliged to fill in this ethnicity section.

The choices include ticking either the "gc" or the "tc" option, with no just CY option. So that section goes unanswered.

As to religion, the section usually does contain a simple atheist option.
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Re: Fake Cyprus census results

Postby miltiades » Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:35 am

My Cyprus ID has my nationality as Cypriot / British.
Im happy with this.
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