Cyprus-Forum.com

[Paphitis]

If there is a God, I think most Atheists will be fine.

Define "God". For anybody to be "fine" what would be required is not merely some "higher power" or "Creator" but that this entity would also be able and willing to offer something to humans. Gods as imagined by humans are conveniently servants of humanity, offering to people help during their time in the physical world and eternal life to their "souls". But even in the highly unlikely case that a "God" exists, the chances that "he/she/it" would give a fuck about you and your beliefs is yet another level of wishful thinking and nothing more.

Atheist, I am an Atheist too.

I was just highlighting Kurupetos flawed thinking.

And yes, if we are wrong, I believe the chances of this Higher Being caring about our beliefs is very remote and wishful thinking by the believers. Chances are, He/She/It has much bigger fish to fry.

[Paphitis]

Good luck with that because you're gonna need it.

If there is a God, I think most Atheists will be fine. He/She can't be the prick/bitch you portray that's for sure.

I doubt very much He/She would judge whether you are "orthodox" and hence a "real christian" but would judge every person equally, including persons of other faiths and Atheists according to their life deeds. Only then can He/She deem a person as good and righteous!!

So you would probably be in a bit of trouble judging by the crap you write.

BTW, you say let Him/She judge you as it is 'written', but your clerics are pretty clear about damning non believers and other persons of differing denominations. Hypocrisy is a sin I would presume.

The only think I dunno is how God will judge koalas.

How have the Chr. Orth. 'clerics' damned non-believers?

Do you say that faith and goodness will be awarded with "eternal life"? In other words, non-believers are automatically bad and will be damned.

[Paphitis]

"Atheism" is not an "other" religion.

An atheist is just an evolving theist who may or may not get there before his end...

Theists are evolving Atheists you mean.

[Paphitis]

I don’t recall an interview of any kind… just some youngster who sat in front of a laptop and asked 5-6 questions and filled out the rest of the blanks without asking anything.

That is how it was. This is why I specifically asked for the religion question because my parents were not even asked that one.

I am curious as to why you are so concerned with being asked your religion? I for one cannot wait until the day when it is not even asked - when it is like asking someone their favourite comic book. A redundant non-entity. You seem overly concerned for a supposed 'atheist'.

Yes but if they ask, then you would expect an option for Atheists otherwise the question is presuming that all people have a belief in religion one way or another.

[Get Real!]

The creation of our universe is explained to a great degree by science.

No, it’s not explained at all so stop kidding yourself!

Had they understood the creation of the universe they would’ve been able to reproduce it right here on Earth on small scale even but they can’t!

If there are elements missing here on Earth that prevent them from being able to replicate the creation of a universe, then how can they claim to understand about elements they know nothing about and/or reactions of such elements they know nothing about?

Scientists can only fill in the blanks with speculation and pretend that it provides an answer but that of course is NOT the answer so let’s stop confusing wild speculation of scientists with proven facts.

The truth is we haven’t got a CLUE how the universe was manufactured period!

What we *can* surmise though is that some force made it happen… and it’s that very force that we label as “God”!

See how believing in God is starting to make sense now?

We take that very “thingy” that was responsible for the “bang” and call it GOD so even YOU believe in God because I’m sure you’ll agree that some “scientific thingy” got it started!

If the logic is "nothing can exist without a creator", then that same logic would apply to a God as well.

Nonsense! Had God needed a creator then we would end up with an infinite loop of creators!

Wouldn’t your next question have been... “But who created the God that created God?”

Of course it would, and we could go on indefinitely so there cannot possibly be a God of a God or the software program would CRASH!

A programmer will tell you that an infinite loop always crashes a process and stalls continuity.

But there is another logical explanation too that God doesn’t have a creator…

You see, only matter that is bound by TIME needs a creator!

If you’re bound by time you have a beginning (BIRTH) and an end (DEATH) and that of course makes you a MORTAL, but somebody that is NOT bound by time is IMMORTAL and thus INFINITE and that’s God!

If you’re infinite how can you need a creator?

What I don't like is when religion is imposed on you, and unfortunately in Cyprus (and many other places) it is still imposed in many occasions.

I can't agree with that if you're over 18 unless you allow yourself to be controlled.

[Paphitis]

Scientists can only fill in the blanks with speculation and pretend that it provides an answer but that of course is NOT the answer so let’s stop confusing wild speculation of scientists with proven facts.

That's funny! I thought that is what religion does - fill in the blanks!

[Get Real!]

Scientists can only fill in the blanks with speculation and pretend that it provides an answer but that of course is NOT the answer so let’s stop confusing wild speculation of scientists with proven facts.

That's funny! I thought that is what religion does - fill in the blanks!

Take note that I didn’t need to use religion or the bible to explain things but basic common sense!

[Paphitis]

Scientists can only fill in the blanks with speculation and pretend that it provides an answer but that of course is NOT the answer so let’s stop confusing wild speculation of scientists with proven facts.

That's funny! I thought that is what religion does - fill in the blanks!

Take note that I didn’t need to use religion or the bible to explain things but basic common sense!

What common sense?

All you 're doing is using Mythology to fill in the blanks.

[Get Real!]

Scientists can only fill in the blanks with speculation and pretend that it provides an answer but that of course is NOT the answer so let’s stop confusing wild speculation of scientists with proven facts.

That's funny! I thought that is what religion does - fill in the blanks!

Take note that I didn’t need to use religion or the bible to explain things but basic common sense!

What common sense?

All you 're doing is using Mythology to fill in the blanks.

Mythology is your assumption that you can harness your common sense but you've obviously failed and I doubt that you have even begun to tap into it. As a programmer for many years I learned how to tap into it to serve me.

[Paphitis]

Scientists can only fill in the blanks with speculation and pretend that it provides an answer but that of course is NOT the answer so let’s stop confusing wild speculation of scientists with proven facts.

That's funny! I thought that is what religion does - fill in the blanks!

Take note that I didn’t need to use religion or the bible to explain things but basic common sense!

What common sense?

All you 're doing is using Mythology to fill in the blanks.

Mythology is your assumption that you can harness your common sense but you've obviously failed and I doubt that you have even begun to tap into it. As a programmer for many years I learned how to tap into it to serve me.

Sorry, but the onus of proof falls on you because you're making all the assumptions here!

You're not exempt from it like you seem to think.

My common sense and determination has resulted in me saving my own life (and others) on a couple of occasions. I doubt your computer IT skills are so "high stake". So if someone should be religious, it should probably me considering what I have seen and experienced in my life. The reality is I should not be alive today probably (and in a cold watery grave to boot). And don't get me wrong because I doubt you have EVER been more scared than me.