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Re: hatred,ignorance and self righteous

Postby Flying Horse » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:49 pm

Let me see now, how can I put this......

Cut off from family and culture, because of an invasion
Isolated in another land, because of invasion
Lost all sense of identity, because of invasion
Not knowing who you are, because of an invasion
Your properties squatted on by an army, because of an invasion
Without your permission a great big fat road built through your properties, because of an invasion


What would life have been like without an invasion?

You'd have had a place to call home, not an outcast within your own kind, no need to fight in a court to prove who you are and what is rightfully yours....

It's not ignorance, hatred or being self righteous. It is your right to your home, where countless generations have called home before you. Where you belong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvyEKhE ... e=youtu.be

[youtube]PvyEKhEQKaY&[/youtube]
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Re: hatred,ignorance and self righteous

Postby Flying Horse » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:51 pm

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Re: hatred,ignorance and self righteous

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:44 pm

...thanks Ms. Horse (,made me cry).
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Re: hatred,ignorance and self righteous

Postby Flying Horse » Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:25 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...thanks Ms. Horse (,made me cry).


Purely my own personal view.
Remember, I aren't Cypriot, but I can jolly well see through a Cypriots eyes...
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Re: hatred,ignorance and self righteous

Postby Lordo » Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:02 pm

Flying Horse wrote:Let me see now, how can I put this......

Cut off from family and culture, because of an invasion
Isolated in another land, because of invasion
Lost all sense of identity, because of invasion
Not knowing who you are, because of an invasion
Your properties squatted on by an army, because of an invasion
Without your permission a great big fat road built through your properties, because of an invasion


What would life have been like without an invasion?

You'd have had a place to call home, not an outcast within your own kind, no need to fight in a court to prove who you are and what is rightfully yours....

It's not ignorance, hatred or being self righteous. It is your right to your home, where countless generations have called home before you. Where you belong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvyEKhE ... e=youtu.be

[youtube]PvyEKhEQKaY&[/youtube]

but all this happened before the invasion too with one difference. most of the victims were tc. what goes around come around my dear. if you are going to judge, you have to comprehend. just jumping in mid way does not bode well.

there is no invasion only intervention which makarios had asked for of the guarantors in the un speech in 1974.
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Re: hatred,ignorance and self righteous

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:31 pm

The majority of GCs did not know of the atrocities against the TCs in the period between1963-67. Most GCs had not idea what was going on in the enclaves. The majority thought the TCs were going through their own rebellion aiming at taksim through their self isolation, paving the way for Turkey to invade.

The majority of TCs knew very well what happened to the GCs in 1974.
The majority of TCs are happy with it or invent various excuses to justify it. Their leadership misses no chance to justify it, they have even built the museum of barbarity which every TC has to visit at least once to get himself trained to the idea that everything is fine.How many TCs would ever miss a chance repeating like parrots the incidents at Sandalari, Tochni, and Kofinou? And how many would ever think that the GCs might have gone through 100 times more?
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Re: hatred,ignorance and self righteous

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:08 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:The majority of GCs did not know of the atrocities against the TCs in the period between1963-67. Most GCs had not idea what was going on in the enclaves. The majority thought the TCs were going through their own rebellion aiming at taksim through their self isolation, paving the way for Turkey to invade.

The majority of TCs knew very well what happened to the GCs in 1974.
The majority of TCs are happy with it or invent various excuses to justify it. Their leadership misses no chance to justify it, they have even built the museum of barbarity which every TC has to visit at least once to get himself trained to the idea that everything is fine.How many TCs would ever miss a chance repeating like parrots the incidents at Sandalari, Tochni, and Kofinou? And how many would ever think that the GCs might have gone through 100 times more?


Do you really expect people to believe GCs did not know what was going on? , this is total rubbish and you will never get TCs to accept this, it didnt suit them to know, they buried their heads in the sand while TCs were suffering, with only way out was to fight back, what did you expect us to do, bow down to the GCs admins ulitmate goal which was and still is to get rid of the island of its TC population using all means availaible.

Please accept that the spark was not 1974, that was the result of GC discriminative and persecutive actions.

All TCs accept 100% that GCs suffered in 1974 and we will always be sorry that innocent people got hurt and killed but what you have to accept is that GCs played with fire and got burnt real bad.

The GCs had the opportunity to build a Cypriot nation by getting the TCs on board in 1960 but they chose to pursue exclusive politics and TC persecution, the GCs have never seen the TCs as equals only as an annoying minority which needs to be squashed, the day you come to your senses and accept that we have to work together as equal partners to build a future together is the day you will find a solution and unite this island.
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Re: hatred,ignorance and self righteous

Postby Lordo » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:31 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:The majority of GCs did not know of the atrocities against the TCs in the period between1963-67. Most GCs had not idea what was going on in the enclaves. The majority thought the TCs were going through their own rebellion aiming at taksim through their self isolation, paving the way for Turkey to invade.

The majority of TCs knew very well what happened to the GCs in 1974.
The majority of TCs are happy with it or invent various excuses to justify it. Their leadership misses no chance to justify it, they have even built the museum of barbarity which every TC has to visit at least once to get himself trained to the idea that everything is fine.How many TCs would ever miss a chance repeating like parrots the incidents at Sandalari, Tochni, and Kofinou? And how many would ever think that the GCs might have gone through 100 times more?

come on pyro baby we are talking about mixed villages where the gcs did the looting of homes and burning down so they would not return. i grant you the media kept the gcs blind to the facts but everybody knew what went on in their own village.

its time to change the record gavole those 78s are very boring.
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Re: hatred,ignorance and self righteous

Postby Flying Horse » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:32 pm

Lordo wrote:
Flying Horse wrote:Let me see now, how can I put this......

Cut off from family and culture, because of an invasion
Isolated in another land, because of invasion
Lost all sense of identity, because of invasion
Not knowing who you are, because of an invasion
Your properties squatted on by an army, because of an invasion
Without your permission a great big fat road built through your properties, because of an invasion


What would life have been like without an invasion?

You'd have had a place to call home, not an outcast within your own kind, no need to fight in a court to prove who you are and what is rightfully yours....

It's not ignorance, hatred or being self righteous. It is your right to your home, where countless generations have called home before you. Where you belong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvyEKhE ... e=youtu.be

[youtube]PvyEKhEQKaY&[/youtube]

but all this happened before the invasion too with one difference. most of the victims were tc. what goes around come around my dear. if you are going to judge, you have to comprehend. just jumping in mid way does not bode well.

there is no invasion only intervention which makarios had asked for of the guarantors in the un speech in 1974.


Yeah, intervention. That's why the poor Turkish Cypriot man on the video was crying. He doesn't look so happy that Turkey ' saved ' him!
Turkey is the problem. Not the likes of normal every day people. I'm sure in village life half of Cyprus weren't aware of a lot of things going on. After all, it's easy to say in this age of information and technology. Come now, look at the roads in the 70s in Cyprus for example ....It wasn't an hour from one city to the next like now. It had snail mail, ffs.


Hello VP..... Folks Have been worried as to where you have been. A whole thread dedicated to 'where is VP, and now you pop up.
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Re: hatred,ignorance and self righteous

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:46 pm

Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The majority of GCs did not know of the atrocities against the TCs in the period between1963-67. Most GCs had not idea what was going on in the enclaves. The majority thought the TCs were going through their own rebellion aiming at taksim through their self isolation, paving the way for Turkey to invade.

The majority of TCs knew very well what happened to the GCs in 1974.
The majority of TCs are happy with it or invent various excuses to justify it. Their leadership misses no chance to justify it, they have even built the museum of barbarity which every TC has to visit at least once to get himself trained to the idea that everything is fine.How many TCs would ever miss a chance repeating like parrots the incidents at Sandalari, Tochni, and Kofinou? And how many would ever think that the GCs might have gone through 100 times more?

come on pyro baby we are talking about mixed villages where the gcs did the looting of homes and burning down so they would not return. i grant you the media kept the gcs blind to the facts but everybody knew what went on in their own village.

its time to change the record gavole those 78s are very boring.


...yes Lordo, i came from a "mixed" village, we did not burn each others homes down.

It is time to change the record, and it is very boring to hear bitter justifications for Criminal acts either way. Time for all of us to say, "this" must stop.
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