Tim Drayton wrote:GreekIslandGirl wrote:Tim, thanks for doing the research.
These are the fundamental components, from my understanding:
Tim Drayton wrote: ...The Muslims living a non-Muslim country, even if they originally entered that country by means of forged documents, are considered to be living in their adopted country under a covenant. They must, therefore, comply with the laws of their country of residence without, at the same time, disobeying Islamic Law.
Provisos!
Muslims living in non-Muslim countries have to comply with laws and regulations of the country they have been entrusted though valid visas to enter. At the same time, they have to avoid whatever contradicts Islamic teachings.
In case they are obliged by law to uphold something contrary to Islamic teachings, they have to adhere to the minimum that the law requires of them.
If these are today's Islamic teachings, it explains a lot as to why young men (and women) are going around disobeying the laws of the lands they have entered (even with "forged documents" as one teaching seems to accept as some kind of
norm). They are licensed to kill; they are taught that they can by-pass "the laws" in favour of
not "disobeying Islamic Law". This being choosing what they consider as "justice" in following their Islamic faith.
I'm sorry, but this is prejudicial to a civilised society.
In all fairness, the overwhelming majority of French Muslims have categorically condemned and distanced themselves from these psychopathic murderers. It could well be that the fanatical movements behind them expected this to spark of a massive rebellion, and, if so, it has backfired.
Let us not make the mistake of stigmatising a whole community over the acts of a couple of deranged individuals from this community.
indeed, with few words, do unto others...
...any one of us can do our part, GIG, it is not with words but acts; so should we be Judged, each of us may find an interpretation that suits our own well-being as Persons, but intention is another matter and personal. I'm not exactly sure what you are getting at, everyone condemns this kind of madness, who are these Leaders that you expect to speak up; unlike Catholics, there is no "Pope".
From what i understand of the Muslim religion, it is as socialised as our own, Christian Orthodox, because whatever their authority as churches and whatever the hierarchy, there are the words of the Prophets, that each and every one of us must as believers, from them, find our own answers, because each and every one of us is no different in that way/"way". And what is wrong with conscientious objection, that is how i read the exceptions you noted, nothing in it that would condone these extremes. Indeed Injustice leads anyone of us to question Authority, it appears the Koran gives guidance which is suitable to anyone of us as well.
