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Re: Je suis Charlie

Postby miltiades » Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:08 am

Muslim leaders the world over have strongly condnned this savage barbaric attack, yet this fucking psychopath fully supports these .....gods soldiers . You are a disgusting human who ought to by now consider blowing your self up.
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Re: Je suis Charlie

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:52 am

Get Real! wrote:Education is key...

Hate speech laws in France:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_France


Blasphemy law worldwide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law


United States free speech exceptions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... exceptions


Where in French law does it say that extrajudicial killing is a lawful punishment?
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Re: Je suis Charlie

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:54 am

Get Real! wrote:It’s been a good start to the new year… Jewhadist Publishing Co has been laid to rest and the world can sleep better tonight knowing that a major propaganda outlet is no more!

Is there anyone else in France who wants to publish insulting caricatures?

Any more brave ones out there who think are immune from persecution and can defile God at will? :?

With an ever increasing Muslim population in France… let’s see you try that again tough guys! :wink:


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Re: Je suis Charlie

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:06 am

Get Real! wrote:Education is key...

Hate speech laws in France:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_France


Blasphemy law worldwide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law


United States free speech exceptions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... exceptions


Satire is not hate speech. In which of those texts does it say that it is? We know you can Google. Can you read?
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Re: Je suis Charlie

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:40 am

Get Real! wrote:Education is key...

Hate speech laws in France:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_France


Blasphemy law worldwide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law


United States free speech exceptions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... exceptions


Thanks for posting that. One exception to freedom of speech in the USA, according to the above, is:

“Threats of violence that are directed at a person or group of persons that has the intent of placing the target at risk of bodily harm or death are generally unprotected.”

One example of that would be (posted by Get Real):

“Let’s now talk a bit about Stephane Charbonnier… the man who saw fit to publish insulting cartoons despite the French Muslim community taking him to court (unsuccessfully) in 2006/7 and him being threatened on a regular basis.

This individual was a religious antagonist who sought to create as much hatred against Muslims as possible; something that more than anyone else would serve the Zionist cause.

I for one have no respect for such scum so I say good riddance to bad rubbish!

Look at this heap of shit… he even looks like a paedophile!”

The line “I for one have no respect for such scum so I say good riddance to bad rubbish” clearly condones the extrajudicial killing (in breach of the biblical and quranic injunctions: “Thou shalt not kill.” (Exodus 20:13) and "Do not take life, which Allah has made sacred, except through justice and the law. He orders this so that you may acquire wisdom." (6:151)) of those you disagree with and can be construed as an incitement to commit similar acts, and can thus be described as a threat of violence that is directed at a person or group of persons that has the intent of placing the target at risk of bodily harm or death. Thank you for going to the trouble of pointing out the illegality (under US law) of that post.
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Re: Je suis Charlie

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:45 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Education is key...

Hate speech laws in France:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_France


Blasphemy law worldwide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law


United States free speech exceptions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... exceptions


Thanks for posting that. One exception to freedom of speech in the USA, according to the above, is:

“Threats of violence that are directed at a person or group of persons that has the intent of placing the target at risk of bodily harm or death are generally unprotected.”

One example of that would be (posted by Get Real):

“Let’s now talk a bit about Stephane Charbonnier… the man who saw fit to publish insulting cartoons despite the French Muslim community taking him to court (unsuccessfully) in 2006/7 and him being threatened on a regular basis.

This individual was a religious antagonist who sought to create as much hatred against Muslims as possible; something that more than anyone else would serve the Zionist cause.

I for one have no respect for such scum so I say good riddance to bad rubbish!

Look at this heap of shit… he even looks like a paedophile!”

The line “I for one have no respect for such scum so I say good riddance to bad rubbish” clearly condones the extrajudicial killing (in breach of the biblical and quranic injunctions: “Thou shalt not kill.” (Exodus 20:13) and "Do not take life, which Allah has made sacred, except through justice and the law. He orders this so that you may acquire wisdom." (6:151)) of those you disagree with and can be construed as an incitement to commit similar acts, and can thus be described as a threat of violence that is directed at a person or group of persons that has the intent of placing the target at risk of bodily harm or death. Thank you for going to the trouble of pointing out the illegality (under US law) of that post.


The above types of posts are in fact quite illegal in the US and Australia according to new legislation designed to capture hate speech on social media and forums.

The target of course are those trying to incite hatred against the community and those trying to indoctrinate new recruits for illegal groups such as DAESH or radicalizing individuals to the point where they may do something drastic such as what occurred in France.

The press in France or anywhere else do not do this.

But posts such as those by Get Real could land him in hot water and place him under the surveillance of the authorities.
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Re: Je suis Charlie

Postby miltiades » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:03 am

He, GR, is a dangerous psychopath and should be placed under surveillance , he would readily commit hideous crimes inspired by his heroes, I think the Cypriot authorities ought to track him down and keep a close eye on him.
He fully supports all terrorists acts and takes great delight at their despicable murderous acts.
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Re: Je suis Charlie

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:09 am

Get Real! wrote:It’s been a good start to the new year… Jewhadist Publishing Co has been laid to rest and the world can sleep better tonight knowing that a major propaganda outlet is no more!

Is there anyone else in France who wants to publish insulting caricatures?

Any more brave ones out there who think are immune from persecution and can defile God at will? :?

With an ever increasing Muslim population in France… let’s see you try that again tough guys! :wink:


Well, newspapers in Canada have, following the Charlie Hebdo attack, published cartoons satirising the antiquated dogma called religion:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/ ... -1.2893662

It looks like the West will NOT bow to those who want to force us back to cowing before the phony dogma of religion that forced people to live in backwardness and superstition in Medieval Europe and still stops places like the Middle East from realising their potential even today. Those who think the West can be intimidated so easily understand nothing about Western civilisation.
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Re: Je suis Charlie

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:55 am

Get Real! wrote:It’s been a good start to the new year… Jewhadist Publishing Co has been laid to rest and the world can sleep better tonight knowing that a major propaganda outlet is no more!

Is there anyone else in France who wants to publish insulting caricatures?

Any more brave ones out there who think are immune from persecution and can defile God at will? :?

With an ever increasing Muslim population in France… let’s see you try that again tough guys! :wink:


It seems most French Muslims want nothing to do with these isolated murderous psychopaths:

French imams condemned violence committed in the name of Islam during Friday prayers as the country reeled from the double hostage dramas that followed the massacre at Charlie Hebdo magazine.

The same message — distancing the country’s five million Muslims from the jihadists responsible for the attacks — was relayed at more than 2,300 mosques across France.

“We denounce the odious crimes committed by the terrorists, whose criminal action endangers our willingness to live together,” said the rector of the Grand Mosque of Paris, Dalil Boubakeur.

He also appealed to “all the Muslims of France” to take part in demonstrations planned for Sunday to pay homage to the 12 victims of the attack on Charlie Hebdo on Wednesday, the bloodiest in France in more than half a century.

In local mosques across the country, imams condemned the jihadists who claimed they were avenging the Prophet Mohammed by shooting dead some of France’s best-known cartoonists at the satirical weekly.

Charlie Hebdo had angered many Muslims by repeatedly publishing cartoons that featured the Prophet as it lampooned Islamist extremists.

“To a cartoon you reply with a cartoon, to a drawing with a drawing, to a newspaper article with a newspaper article… But you don’t reply with guns,” said Mustafa Riad of the Union mosque in the southern city of Montpellier.

Muslim groups had taken the magazine to court over the drawings but had lost.

“The people who carried out that attack in the name of Islam are not Muslims… The Prophet did not advocate violence against non-Muslims,” Abdel Qader Achour, of the conservative Omar Ibn Al Khattab mosque not far from Charlie Hebdo’s offices, insisted.

“France is our country, we have been here for three or even four generations, and we should not be afraid,” he said as around one thousand of the faithful gathered to pray.


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Re: Je suis Charlie

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:57 am

Tim Drayton wrote: ... and "Do not take life, which Allah has made sacred, except through justice and the law. He orders this so that ....


That "except" is the root of all this evil.

Do you need to tell people there are exceptions, excuses, to take life? :roll:
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