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tc teachers demand tc school by the RoC

Postby cypezokyli » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:03 pm

according to phileleftheros , KTOS (tc teacher trade union) , a tc lawer and two tc families will sue the RoC demanding that tc childern should have the ability to learn their mother tongue in a tc school.
the two tc teachers hired up to now are not quiified to teach in junior schools, according to the lawer. (why the hell die they hire them? i dont also know if they hat a choise..)
the general secretary of KTOS and the tc parents said that they will demand all the rights they deserve from the constitution.
the tc lawer said that the RoC was created by two communities and went on to add that the goverment should have 10 ministries given on a 7 - 3 ratio, and that cannot change. he also argued that the changes done to the ministry of education and culture are against the constitution, since they were made after amending the constitution.
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obviously we are not doing enough. why dont we just hire tc teachers as we are supposed to ? if we are going to play the role of the RoC we may as well do it right.

moreover we can avoid the trial.

as for the constitutional rights of tc...no problem.

lets hope the trial moves as fast as possible for the sake of the kids.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:20 pm

the general secretary of KTOS and the tc parents said that they will demand all the rights they deserve from the constitution.

Will they also demand their responsibilities?

the tc lawer said that the RoC was created by two communities and went on to add that the goverment should have 10 ministries given on a 7 - 3 ratio, and that cannot change. he also argued that the changes done to the ministry of education and culture are against the constitution, since they were made after amending the constitution.


So let me get this right. Do the TC teachers and parents demand return to legality? Or they demand legality only in the areas that suits them? Which of the 2 is it?

If its the first, then I believe we should organize a conference and bring all world media to listen that TCs support the 1960 constitution and that they want to return to it so everybody can have his legal rights. The Cyprus Problem is solved and this lawyer won his case!

If its the second, well the answer that layer should get is not allowed to be posted here.

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The above were about the ministry of education comments. Regarding the school if the teachers are not the right ones they should be replaced. However I am afraid this is just another move organized by Turkey in order to create impressions. If this was for the true benefit of the children those people would concentrate on that and they wouldn't play politics with the ministry of education comments.
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Postby bg_turk » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:24 pm

Piratis wrote:So let me get this right. Do the TC teachers and parents demand return to legality? Or they demand legality only in the areas that suits them? Which of the 2 is it?

They demand their right to study their mother tongue. Do you refuse to give it?
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Postby zan » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:30 pm

He even picks on the ones that are living in the RoC. If it’s got Turk next to it Piratis will hate it. The people who first broke the 1960 constitution were the GC terrorists and the people that wanted ENOSIS. Lets bring them to court if you want legalities all around.
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Postby Main_Source » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:48 pm

change the fucking record zan...fo fucks sake.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:49 pm

They demand their right to study their mother tongue. Do you refuse to give it?

No. Do you refuse to give back to RoC and its citizens the land stolen and is illegally under occupation by Turkey?

The people who first broke the 1960 constitution were the GC terrorists and the people that wanted ENOSIS.

Along with the people of TMT that wanted partition. It is obvious why you are on sided, but hiding the truth at that degree it makes no good to you.

Lets bring them to court if you want legalities all around.

I agree to that. Lets bring everybody that worked against RoC to court. Zan, you support RoC and legality, right? Or you are also an outlaw supporting illegality and the violations of the basic human rights of 1000s of people?
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Postby cypezokyli » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:07 am

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They demand their right to study their mother tongue. Do you refuse to give it?

No. Do you refuse to give back to RoC and its citizens the land stolen and is illegally under occupation by Turkey?


i completely disagree with this attitude. and above all when it comes to kids and education. the fact that there is violation of human rights by the turkish army, does not justify any violation from our side to any tc.

we dont have to ask for sth in return for evrything we do.

besides if you want to view it compltely on "our-interest", treating tc well, is like making allies for the united cyprus
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Postby Eric dayi » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:10 am

Main_Source wrote:change the fucking record zan...fo fucks sake.


tsk, tsk, tsk, Sourcey has blown a fuse, [b]again[/] :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

hey ref, is this kind of language allowed in this forum?
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Postby Piratis » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:17 am

i completely disagree with this attitude. and above all when it comes to kids and education. the fact that there is violation of human rights by the turkish army, does not justify any violation from our side to any tc.

What attitude?
It was a clear answer to a question. The answer to "They demand their right to study their mother tongue. Do you refuse to give it?" was clearly No.
This answer was followed by a question. Or we should not even dare to ask for our human and legal rights anymore???

we dont have to ask for sth in return for evrything we do.

We are not asking for "sth" we are asking for our human rights. Should we just give and give while the others violate even our basic human rights?


the fact that there is violation of human rights by the turkish army, does not justify any violation from our side to any tc.

By the Turkish army only? Didn't you realize already that the majority of TCs also supports the violations of our human rights?

besides if you want to view it compltely on "our-interest", treating tc well, is like making allies for the united cyprus

I was thinking like you some years ago. Now I am convinced it doesn't work in that way.
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Postby bg_turk » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:17 am

Piratis wrote:
They demand their right to study their mother tongue. Do you refuse to give it?

No. Do you refuse to give back to RoC and its citizens the land stolen and is illegally under occupation by Turkey?

Yes. The TRNC should give no land, not even three pebbles, to the roc. The land should be given to its original owners under the jurisdiction and supervision of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.
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