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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby kurupetos » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:49 pm

Lordo wrote:bankers clutches my left foot. if the banks did not lend them the money they would be starving now. time for reckoning is near now. they have two weeks left and it will be back to the dachma and everybody will be hit

What's dachma?
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:45 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Lordo wrote:bankers clutches my left foot. if the banks did not lend them the money they would be starving now. time for reckoning is near now. they have two weeks left and it will be back to the dachma and everybody will be hit

What's dachma?


I think he's invented a new coinage between the deutsche-mark and the drachma :P Must be cos the bankers are clutching his left foot.
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:51 pm

My prayers have been answered… Greece is about to be fucked beyond redemption! :lol:

And may Turkey follow soon... :)
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby Lordo » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:08 pm

all that is going to happen to terggy is that their currency will devalue which already has happened. there is no immanent collapse like greace is facing.
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:00 pm

latest news

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-33164924

Greece's central bank has warned for the first time that the country could be on a "painful course" towards default and exit from the eurozone.
It comes as the Greek government and its international creditors blamed each other for failing to reach a deal over economic reforms.
That failure is holding up the release €7.2bn in bailout funds.
About €30bn was withdrawn from Greek bank deposits between October and April, the central bank added.
The central bank also warned the country's economic slowdown would accelerate without a deal.
"Failure to reach an agreement would... mark the beginning of a painful course that would lead initially to a Greek default and ultimately to the country's exit from the euro area and, most likely, from the European Union," the Bank of Greece said in a report.


I do not gloat or rejoice over this news, because I have no desire to see the ordinary Greek suffer as they no doubt will if this comes to pass...
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:23 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:latest news

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-33164924

Greece's central bank has warned for the first time that the country could be on a "painful course" towards default and exit from the eurozone.
It comes as the Greek government and its international creditors blamed each other for failing to reach a deal over economic reforms.
That failure is holding up the release €7.2bn in bailout funds.
About €30bn was withdrawn from Greek bank deposits between October and April, the central bank added.
The central bank also warned the country's economic slowdown would accelerate without a deal.
"Failure to reach an agreement would... mark the beginning of a painful course that would lead initially to a Greek default and ultimately to the country's exit from the euro area and, most likely, from the European Union," the Bank of Greece said in a report.


I do not gloat or rejoice over this news, because I have no desire to see the ordinary Greek suffer as they no doubt will if this comes to pass...


How many years has the BBC been reporting an imminent "Grexit"? :roll: More of the same - Cameron about to capitalise on this matter to suit his MOUNTING self-created EU problems. What did he do last time he was caught having to explain a mess-up? He invaded Libya! Keep an eye on crazy-Cameron, for sure.

Anyway, there are MORE Europeans behind Greece than there are supporters of Britain...

Austrian chancellor: I stand by the Greek people

German Vice Chancellor, Economy and Energy Minister Sigmar Gabriel (L), Austria’s Chancellor Werner Faymann (C) and European Parliament president Martin Schulz (R) speak during a gathering at the city hall in Evry, outside Paris, on June 2, 2015.

The Austrian Chancellor has issued a strong declaration of solidarity with Greece, hours before meeting Greek prime minister Alexis Tsipras in Athens later today.

Werner Faymann told Austrian broadcaster ORF that Greece should be given more support, given the extent of the damage suffered by its people since the debt crisis began.

Faymann criticised some of the measures which Greece’s lenders - the IMF, ECB and EC - are demanding, saying:

“I know there were a number of proposals, also from the institutions, that I also don’t find in order.”

Werner Faymann has already repeated his call for Europe to support Greece, saying:

“For Europe to be stronger, it must show solidarity and support to any country which needs it.”

That follows Faymann’s warning this morning that Greece’s creditors are making some unacceptable demands on the country’s people:


The Guardian
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby Lordo » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:13 pm

greeks are playing a very dangerous game. they will be kicked out of euro and the eu. shit will hit the fan.
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:34 pm

Imminent Greek riots… they’re gonna trash the entire country this time.

Inshallah, Turkey is next…
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:44 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:latest news

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-33164924

Greece's central bank has warned for the first time that the country could be on a "painful course" towards default and exit from the eurozone.
It comes as the Greek government and its international creditors blamed each other for failing to reach a deal over economic reforms.
That failure is holding up the release €7.2bn in bailout funds.
About €30bn was withdrawn from Greek bank deposits between October and April, the central bank added.
The central bank also warned the country's economic slowdown would accelerate without a deal.
"Failure to reach an agreement would... mark the beginning of a painful course that would lead initially to a Greek default and ultimately to the country's exit from the euro area and, most likely, from the European Union," the Bank of Greece said in a report.


I do not gloat or rejoice over this news, because I have no desire to see the ordinary Greek suffer as they no doubt will if this comes to pass...


How many years has the BBC been reporting an imminent "Grexit"? :roll: More of the same - Cameron about to capitalise on this matter to suit his MOUNTING self-created EU problems. What did he do last time he was caught having to explain a mess-up? He invaded Libya! Keep an eye on crazy-Cameron, for sure.

Anyway, there are MORE Europeans behind Greece than there are supporters of Britain...

Austrian chancellor: I stand by the Greek people

German Vice Chancellor, Economy and Energy Minister Sigmar Gabriel (L), Austria’s Chancellor Werner Faymann (C) and European Parliament president Martin Schulz (R) speak during a gathering at the city hall in Evry, outside Paris, on June 2, 2015.

The Austrian Chancellor has issued a strong declaration of solidarity with Greece, hours before meeting Greek prime minister Alexis Tsipras in Athens later today.

Werner Faymann told Austrian broadcaster ORF that Greece should be given more support, given the extent of the damage suffered by its people since the debt crisis began.

Faymann criticised some of the measures which Greece’s lenders - the IMF, ECB and EC - are demanding, saying:

“I know there were a number of proposals, also from the institutions, that I also don’t find in order.”

Werner Faymann has already repeated his call for Europe to support Greece, saying:

“For Europe to be stronger, it must show solidarity and support to any country which needs it.”

That follows Faymann’s warning this morning that Greece’s creditors are making some unacceptable demands on the country’s people:


The Guardian


But the BBC are NOT reporting on the Greek exit per se but on comments by the Governor of the Greek Central Bank, Yannis Stournaras, to the Greek Parliament that Greece might painfully exit both the Euro and the EU...now if the Greek central bank is looking at that as a possibility I would give it some credence...

BTW the BBC also reports Mr Faymann's comments while the Guardian is also reporting those of Mr Stournaras so do not try to label the label it as BBC anti-Greek propaganda,
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Re: Greece - Europe's only hope of a change for good...

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:38 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:latest news

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-33164924

Greece's central bank has warned for the first time that the country could be on a "painful course" towards default and exit from the eurozone.
It comes as the Greek government and its international creditors blamed each other for failing to reach a deal over economic reforms.
That failure is holding up the release €7.2bn in bailout funds.
About €30bn was withdrawn from Greek bank deposits between October and April, the central bank added.
The central bank also warned the country's economic slowdown would accelerate without a deal.
"Failure to reach an agreement would... mark the beginning of a painful course that would lead initially to a Greek default and ultimately to the country's exit from the euro area and, most likely, from the European Union," the Bank of Greece said in a report.


I do not gloat or rejoice over this news, because I have no desire to see the ordinary Greek suffer as they no doubt will if this comes to pass...


How many years has the BBC been reporting an imminent "Grexit"? :roll: More of the same - Cameron about to capitalise on this matter to suit his MOUNTING self-created EU problems. What did he do last time he was caught having to explain a mess-up? He invaded Libya! Keep an eye on crazy-Cameron, for sure.

Anyway, there are MORE Europeans behind Greece than there are supporters of Britain...

Austrian chancellor: I stand by the Greek people

German Vice Chancellor, Economy and Energy Minister Sigmar Gabriel (L), Austria’s Chancellor Werner Faymann (C) and European Parliament president Martin Schulz (R) speak during a gathering at the city hall in Evry, outside Paris, on June 2, 2015.

The Austrian Chancellor has issued a strong declaration of solidarity with Greece, hours before meeting Greek prime minister Alexis Tsipras in Athens later today.

Werner Faymann told Austrian broadcaster ORF that Greece should be given more support, given the extent of the damage suffered by its people since the debt crisis began.

Faymann criticised some of the measures which Greece’s lenders - the IMF, ECB and EC - are demanding, saying:

“I know there were a number of proposals, also from the institutions, that I also don’t find in order.”

Werner Faymann has already repeated his call for Europe to support Greece, saying:

“For Europe to be stronger, it must show solidarity and support to any country which needs it.”

That follows Faymann’s warning this morning that Greece’s creditors are making some unacceptable demands on the country’s people:


The Guardian


But the BBC are NOT reporting on the Greek exit per se but on comments by the Governor of the Greek Central Bank, Yannis Stournaras, to the Greek Parliament that Greece might painfully exit both the Euro and the EU...now if the Greek central bank is looking at that as a possibility I would give it some credence...

BTW the BBC also reports Mr Faymann's comments while the Guardian is also reporting those of Mr Stournaras so do not try to label the label it as BBC anti-Greek propaganda,


The Guardian is not guilt-free but there are ways of reporting the same story without hyping up only negativity and the BBC are notorious in their anti-Greek stances - they have been called out in their overuse of the "Grexit" label - so much repetition over years now - that they acknowledge they could look like fools to use it now, AGAIN and AGAIN - so it's back to less tired methods of presenting negativity.

It's what they leave out that creates the negative tone too and the BBC chose to leave out the positive information which could have balanced their article!
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