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[Get Real!]

What Syriza is doing is asking the general population to shoulder responsibility for 117 days of their jerking off instead of negotiating,...

That pretty much sums up the situation for the last 4 months.

[Lordo]

varufakis may well just varufakis the eu if the griik people hold their nerve.

[GreekIslandGirl]

What Syriza is doing is asking the general population to shoulder responsibility for 117 days of their jerking off instead of negotiating,...

That pretty much sums up the situation for the last 4 months.

And how much negotiating did the previous governments carry out? (Clue, 'negotiating' is NOT simply accepting whatever is on offer regardless of how stupid it is!)

[GreekIslandGirl]

varufakis may well just varufakis the eu if the griik people hold their nerve.

OK. Is good post. Well done.

[Maximus]

I just contributed to the Greek bail out fund.

https://www.indiegogo.com/greek-bailout-fund.html

[Nikitas]

"And how much negotiating did the previous governments carry out?"

The bone of contention, which Tsip and his crowd condemned as treasonous, was the email by the former finance minister Hardouvelis, it contained measure totalling one just ONE billion in austerity measures.

Tsip last week proposed, on his initiative, measures amounting to EIGHT billion for the next 18 months.

The last lot had the economy in surplus, annual GDP growth at 3 per cent, and unemployment FALLING by two points. Tsip managed to erase these gains in 117 days and go into negative values.

You gotta admit, it takes some trying to manage that.

[Nikitas]

All Greek news broadcasts tonight are buzzing with the Ttsotsoros pay increase. You gotta love this guy, I mean he does have very clear priorities and specialised perception of his job description.

And we learned that at the general share holder's meeting, where the 110 000 pay increase was approved present and representing the state, the major share holder, was a Syriza MP, standing on behalf of the Enviro Minister whose name is Lafazanis, now that is a name to strike a chord.

The other minister approving the appointment was Baroufakis.

All this while there were qeues at every single ATM in the country.

As my Jamaican friens would say: tu rasman!

[GreekIslandGirl]

The last lot had the economy in surplus, annual GDP growth at 3 per cent, and unemployment FALLING by two points. Tsip managed to erase these gains in 117 days and go into negative values.

The common factor in every country around the world is how WELL (supposedly ) the economy is doing just prior to an election. Of course, after is a different matter entirely!

[Nikitas]

You are resorting to sophistry. In this particular case the how well was not stated by the local politicians but by the creditors who monitoer progress closely. So you are off the mark, way off.

A more valid point would be what the previous lot should have done and did not, like being serious about the agreed reforms that would hurt vested interests, small and large. Instead they did the usual, promise, pass a law to fool the foreigners and then refuse to implement it, to please their local clientele. Typical was the trucking industry reform that remained a dead law.

The foreigners are not as stupid as we think. In fact it is a major act of stupidity to assume your interlocutors are stupid. They gave us enough rope and we made a noose. Now it is back to square one, or even worse if go to the drachma.

I dread those days of currency controls and the humiliating searches at exit ports. THe endless applications at banks for foreign exchange, the micromanagement of export documents. That was real, daily humiliation where you are assumed to be a crook and treated like one. But hey, you want to live that way and crave it enough to vote for your humiliators, who am I to argue.

[Oceanside50]

"And how much negotiating did the previous governments carry out?"

The bone of contention, which Tsip and his crowd condemned as treasonous, was the email by the former finance minister Hardouvelis, it contained measure totalling one just ONE billion in austerity measures.

Tsip last week proposed, on his initiative, measures amounting to EIGHT billion for the next 18 months.

The last lot had the economy in surplus, annual GDP growth at 3 per cent, and unemployment FALLING by two points. Tsip managed to erase these gains in 117 days and go into negative values.

You gotta admit, it takes some trying to manage that.

The last lot had the economy in surplus, annual GDP growth at 3 per cent, and unemployment FALLING by two points. Tsip managed to erase these gains in 117 days and go into negative values.

shouldn't that be a good reason to ask for a postponement of payments and instead to use to stimulate the economy further in order to create more jobs and more growth?