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[repulsewarrior]

Greek leader Alexis Tsipras called a July 5th national referendum to determine whether Athens should accept a creditor proposal to keep the country in the euro in exchange for deep budget cuts to pensions and other public spending.

http://www.politico.eu/article/greek-pm ... el-greece/

[Oceanside50]

Greek leader Alexis Tsipras called a July 5th national referendum to determine whether Athens should accept a creditor proposal to keep the country in the euro in exchange for deep budget cuts to pensions and other public spending.

http://www.politico.eu/article/greek-pm ... el-greece/

if this follows through its huge

[Get Real!]

Greek leader Alexis Tsipras called a July 5th national referendum to determine whether Athens should accept a creditor proposal to keep the country in the euro in exchange for deep budget cuts to pensions and other public spending.

Oh the cunt! He’s passing the buck on the people!

He wasted enormous amounts of time and thus money of the country’s economy (due to compounding interests and penalties) just so he can now pass a referendum onto the people to vote for basically the same thing that they were faced with months ago but now at the cost of wasted billions!!!

Having run out of stupid ideas to throw at unconvincing creditors, he knows it’s all over so he’s gone into a personal damage control (at an even further cost to Greece) so he won’t be blamed for his debacle and stay in office too!

What an utter cunt!

[GreekIslandGirl]

Let's see if the un-elected bankers controlling Europe allow Greece to go as far as having a referendum this time!

Appears to be that this is what the path to change needs - allowing the people to have a voice. The worry is that once again the un-elected dictators running the EU might stop democracy in its tracks.

This is the first real test for EU unity. The ultimate result from allowing bankers too much say and no regulations. Redress!

Back to the common people!

[Lordo]

you live in a different world my dear. un-ellected dictators do run countries for the for these bankers and the yanks in general, but not in greece i am afraid. it is democracy albeit a corrupted one that brought greace on it knees. they borrowed this money and knew the terms when they did. what exactly voice do people have in this situation, are they going to vote to say no we will not pay and will that be ok afterwards. what is it with leaders called alex, what makes them so stupid.

[kurupetos]

you live in a different world my dear. un-ellected dictators do run countries for the for these bankers and the yanks in general, but not in greece i am afraid. it is democracy albeit a corrupted one that brought greace on it knees. they borrowed this money and knew the terms when they did. what exactly voice do people have in this situation, are they going to vote to say no we will not pay and will that be ok afterwards. what is it with leaders called alex, what makes them so stupid.

First of all we need to know where all this debt came from and where it was spent. It seems 90% of it is onerous and should be erased.

[Lordo]

the fact that it was given to the griik government is beyond doubt. what they did with it is the responsibility of the government which is ultimately the responsibility of the people who elected them. this is called democracy my dear xerodjehalo, to hold a referendum whether to pay this debt is not democracy but the last action of a country that is about to default. back to thecave man life i fear for the people of greace or even as far back as living in the trees i fear.

[observer]

It seems to me very simple, and very democratic.

If Greece wants to stay in the Eurozone than they must obey the rules of the Eurozone which, remember, has 18 other countries in it and the numbers seem to be 18 to 1 against Greece. That’s democracy.

If Greece doesn’t want to obey the Eurozone’s rules it is open to the Greek people to vote to leave the Eurozone (and even the EU) and make up whatever rules they want. That too is democracy.

Odd that the country that claims to have invented democracy has such trouble in understanding it.

[kurupetos]

It seems to me very simple, and very democratic.

If Greece wants to stay in the Eurozone than they must obey the rules of the Eurozone which, remember, has 18 other countries in it and the numbers seem to be 18 to 1 against Greece. That’s democracy.

If Greece doesn’t want to obey the Eurozone’s rules it is open to the Greek people to vote to leave the Eurozone (and even the EU) and make up whatever rules they want. That too is democracy.

Odd that the country that claims to have invented democracy has such trouble in understanding it.

Bollocks. It's the EU that doesn't understand democracy. Next Sunday Greeks will have a DEMOCRATIC referendum to decide their next move.

[kurupetos]

the fact that it was given to the griik government is beyond doubt. what they did with it is the responsibility of the government which is ultimately the responsibility of the people who elected them. this is called democracy my dear xerodjehalo, to hold a referendum whether to pay this debt is not democracy but the last action of a country that is about to default. back to thecave man life i fear for the people of greace or even as far back as living in the trees i fear.

First find a brain cell to enable you to understand what I wrote above and then try to reply, kuz.