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[B25]

Sotos, only SSD i have are on Apple computers, can you get them for normal pcs? Internal or external, never seen them. Do you yave any link please.
Cheers

[Sotos]

Sotos, only SSD i have are on Apple computers, can you get them for normal pcs? Internal or external, never seen them. Do you yave any link please.
Cheers

You can have them on higher end PCs (one example: http://www.eshopcy.com.cy/product?id=PER.902867), but you can just buy an SSD and install it in just about any PC (desktop or laptop - just make sure it is the right size and your computer has the appropriate SATA connection). Just go to e.g. Amazon and search for SSD and you will get tons of results. Personally I think SSDs should be installed to all computers over €400. I'd rather have a 240GB SSD than 1TB HDD. The cost difference would not be more than €50.

[B25]

Thanks, ill check it.
That example is way, way, over priced, i5, 13" screen Acer, no bloody fear.

Anyway, ill check the SSD as suggested.

[erolz66]

Sotos, only SSD i have are on Apple computers, can you get them for normal pcs? Internal or external, never seen them. Do you yave any link please.
Cheers

Some of us have been using them in our 'normal' PC's for over 5 years now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnKvxDNFQbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGqn5-S_nGE

Seriously the best upgrade you can do to a machine in terms of how it impacts every day use. Only problem is once you go SSD you will never enjoy using a machine without one again. 5 Years back they were definitely still 'enthusiast' components. Now they are main stream. I am a fan of the Samsung range currently - something like 840 evo is a good choice imo.

[Get Real!]

GR, DOS is even less demanding than XP, and a 486DX can run DOS really fast. Does this mean that 486DX+DOS is a good combo for 2015?

Unlike XP, DOS doesn't run contemporary software so it's pointless to mention it.

If all you can afford is a 486DX then you should run it with DOS. If all you can afford is a P4 with 2Gigs of RAM then you stick to XP. But you are kidding yourself if you believe that i3+Win7 and especially an i7+Win8 (with sufficient RAM) are slower than your old P4 Maybe what you tried was heavily bottlenecked somewhere ... like laptops with slow 5400rpm drives which take a long time to load an app (due to the slow hard drive) and then they don't even have enough RAM to keep the whole app in memory so they have to keep reading/writing to the slow HDD!! But get yourself an i5 CPU + 8 Gigs of RAM + a decent SSD + Win 7 (and maybe a dedicated video card depending on usage) and then you will find out what "instantly" means in this decade without spending too much money.

I would happily demonstrate in my workshop what I’m talking about. We can easily time loading Ms Word or a browser as an example (first time load so it doesn’t reside in the cache) the following system combinations…

1. P4+XP+Office 2003

2. i3+Vista+Office 2007

3. i5+Win7+Office 2010

4. i7+Win8+Office 2013

…and I’m sure you’ll find that the P4+XP machine will always load faster than the rest. Also, Windows entry and exit time will be faster on the XP and by the end of the day you *should* get more work done than on any of the other systems.

When I say “work” I’m referring to Internet access, Ms Office, browsing through your files to open/close, etc; the kind of use that is typical of the vast majority of the world’s computer users.

It’s this “system productivity” that I’m talking about!

[Sotos]

Seriously the best upgrade you can do to a machine in terms of how it impacts every day use.

I agree. An average computer user might not even notice much difference going from an i3 CPU to an i7, or from 4GB RAM to 8GB RAM. But a change from a 5400rpm drive to an SSD would be a significant improvement for practically everybody. I got my first SSD in 2010 ... one of the cheapest 40GB intel drives... just for XP and main programs, everything else was on a regular HDD ... and WOW ... what a difference! Even better than the 10000rpm Raptor I used to have ... here is my post from 2009:

I would never get the "Ultimate PC" even if I had the money. The Benefit/Cost ratio is very bad. I always buy a couple of steps lower than the cutting edge and only spend money on the components that I know will make a difference for me. I also try to get it balanced so I will not waste money on something that is going to be bottlenecked by something else on the system. Also you can overclock and get better performance for less. My current system (2.5 years old) is overclocked from 1.8GHz to 2.8GHz. Only problem is that my Raptor died and I replaced it with a normal 7200rpm Hard Drive and now the system is much less responsive than it used to

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[Sotos]

GR, DOS is even less demanding than XP, and a 486DX can run DOS really fast. Does this mean that 486DX+DOS is a good combo for 2015?

Unlike XP, DOS doesn't run contemporary software so it's pointless to mention it.

If all you can afford is a 486DX then you should run it with DOS. If all you can afford is a P4 with 2Gigs of RAM then you stick to XP. But you are kidding yourself if you believe that i3+Win7 and especially an i7+Win8 (with sufficient RAM) are slower than your old P4 Maybe what you tried was heavily bottlenecked somewhere ... like laptops with slow 5400rpm drives which take a long time to load an app (due to the slow hard drive) and then they don't even have enough RAM to keep the whole app in memory so they have to keep reading/writing to the slow HDD!! But get yourself an i5 CPU + 8 Gigs of RAM + a decent SSD + Win 7 (and maybe a dedicated video card depending on usage) and then you will find out what "instantly" means in this decade without spending too much money.

I would happily demonstrate in my workshop what I’m talking about. We can easily time loading Ms Word or a browser as an example (first time load so it doesn’t reside in the cache) the following system combinations…

1. P4+XP+Office 2003

2. i3+Vista+Office 2007

3. i5+Win7+Office 2010

4. i7+Win8+Office 2013

…and I’m sure you’ll find that the P4+XP machine will always load faster than the rest. Also, Windows entry and exit time will be faster on the XP and by the end of the day you *should* get more work done than on any of the other systems.

When I say “work” I’m referring to Internet access, Ms Office, browsing through your files to open/close, etc; the kind of use that is typical of the vast majority of the world’s computer users.

It’s this “system productivity” that I’m talking about!

The bottleneck in opening such an application is the hard drive, not the CPU. So if all 4 computers have the same kind of HDD, and since Office 2003 is the smallest application, probably it could open faster even with a slower CPU since the hard drive has the same speed on all 4 computers. But you can have Office 2003 on Win 7 also. That is what I have. And I also have an SSD, which means that any Office version would open fast ... so I don't need to stick to old software if I don't want to. And Office is really the only old software I am running. I wouldn't run Photoshop from 2003 or a browser from 2003 or anything else so old.

[erolz66]

I would never get the "Ultimate PC" even if I had the money. The Benefit/Cost ratio is very bad.

Pretty much why I went for the Nvidia 970 GPU and not the 980 and the Intel 5820K and not the Intel 5930K processor when I specced my latest machine.

[erolz66]

It’s this “system productivity” that I’m talking about!

I think an SSD will boost anyone's productivity but after that , for me at least, there are various things that actually do boost my productivity that are often overlooked. Decent res screen and multi screens - I definitely get more done more efficiently when I use my multi screen set up than when I am limited to a single screen system. The there is mouse and keyboard - the number of times I have seen people with high spec machines using the most awful keyboard and or mouse. Not forgetting a decent desk and chair as well.

[boomerang]

Yes SSD is the way to go since these days they became mainstream...I have been using SSD since the beginning of SSD...Drive C: is SSD just for booting up and installing S/W and Drive D: where I keep my saved files...

For VGA card I am considering the latest quadro k5200 or the K4200...

My i7 boots up at a blink of an eye...