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[Piratis]

Cyprus has always been under the control of one Empire or another

And always had a Greek majority. Not Egyptian, Persian or British.

the Turkish rule may not have been the most pleasant but bearing in mind that if you drew a circle of 250km radius with Nicosia at the center, you'd probably find more Turks than any other people, theirs is easier to understand.

And your point is? That because you draw circles all the human right violations against us are excused? Why didn't they let Iraq have Kuwait? Based on your logic they should have.

Right now nobody is spitting at anybody, and nobody is killing anybody, or enslaving them.

Right now 200.000 people are denied access to their own homes and properties and 1/3rd of our land is illegally occupied.

If we have any chance it must be now and will only come if the this type of rhetoric is put to rest forever, by both sides.

You seem to have problem only with our "rhetoric" but when the Turks say that we deserve punishment and human rights violations because what some people did before I was even born, you don't seem to bother. When I am forced to remind them that if we deserve a punishment once they deserve 100 for the far worst crimes they committed against us for far longer periods (both before and after the period they accuse us) you don't like it. Why?

The past can not be used selectively in order to excuse human rights violations today. If some people want to bring up tiny parts of the past to excuse their crimes today, then I will continue to remind them all the rest of the history they seem to conveniently forget. Nobody has any right or any excuse to violate any of our rights.

[Sotos]

I think is better if the students don't go. Have you heard the news about the 200 students from Limassol that went for vacation in Paphos and they started fighting with Paphos students? Some people were injured in the battles and some shops were broken! These people are obviously not mature enough.

[cypezokyli]

how about i bet you that nothing will happen / happened soto?

[Sotos]

I hope so too. But I can also bet you that nothing good will come either. They will just go to spent their money and support the occupation like all the rest do the last 2 years.

[Alexios]

Gor God,s sake, millions of pounds,and rightly so, are paid by the government on social insurance,medical expenses etc on T/Cs.Thousands of T/Cs work in the south.Let aqlone the millions of pounds spent by G/Cs in the casinos of the north.How much are a few students visiting are going to spend???? and why not??!!! Official statistics reveal that each T/Cs spends on average more in the south than G/Cs in the north...Let the young people meet each other..see beyond your nose...

[cypezokyli]

it is a stupid attitude. that i am ambarrased that i also had in my first time in the north, taking my sandwich and drinks with me . actually, i am really pissed with myself that i did that. as if the occupation depends on a couple of pounds that i ll give to another PERSON, having a small shop selling bourek. not to mention that the bourek was delicious

even though to be honest, i didnt spent that much in the north up to now.... try to convince a cypriot, when visiting him in his town, not to pay for your food. it just doesnt work.

[Piratis]

There is a difference between offering health care and work to Turkish Cypriots and spending money in casinos and restaurants in the occupied areas.

If you do the second you support the occupation regime, and because some do it, this doesn't mean it is ok for everybody to do it. Don't you show your passport to pass to the occupied areas? Don't you buy insurance from them? Do you check if every restaurant that you go is actually not one stolen by a GC?

Any GC entering the occupied areas should have a reason that is associated with the solution of the Cyprus Problem. Going there just for tourism is idiotic to say the least.

[Alexios]

So you support that social interraction is not associated with a solution....

[zan]

Because today you are the ones who show no respect to us. And don't tell me that we stated it, because you are the ones who did by invading and occupying Cyprus for 3 centuries and using as us slaves.

Three centuries and you’re still there as a majority. As soon as the Greeks got hold of Cyprus they tried to clear us from the island. A Life for an eye, a full set of dentures for a tooth.

Your government Taxes, rules, legislates, punishes and tolerates you, why not accuse them of slavery. History shows the tolerance of the Ottomans. I am not saying they did nothing wrong, they did plenty, but it seems your accusations are misplaced. Your only concern is that a Turk ruled you, rather than how you were treated.


You also keep having a go at me “copy and pasting”. You sound as desperate as Source does sometimes. I just happen to believe that people are more likely to believe what press was writing at the time and historians rather than me spouting of rubbish personal views like you seem to do. You should try it some time, you might just learn a bit more about realities.

[cypezokyli]

first - i dont go to kazinos

second - there are very different ways to support the occupation - and no negotiations is one of them.

third - it took me a while to decide , but in the end the decision between showing my passport and visiting a friend was clear for me.

and no, i am not making a research to each restaurant i go. i tend to see the owner as a person and not as an occupier. as i said before, i draw a line between people and politics. the person working in a gc restaurant does not do it because he wanted to steal it from the gc owner. actually , in one restaurant, we got some extra drinks just because we were lemeshianoi - since the owner was also from limassol (not to mention that havin origins from limassol is a kind of status between the tc ). how can you accuse that person of having stolen sth if he also lost his ? what do you expect from him to do in the meantime?

the tc dont depend on our money , and the occupation remains because of our and their leadership inability - not to mention unwilingness to solve the problem. i dont trust the politicians anymore for a solution , and as a concequence getting to know people has gained much more importance for me.