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Re: Sydney Siege over

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:57 am

Tim Drayton wrote:Meanwhile, the bandits calling themselves Boko Haram have attacked the village of Gumsuri in northern Nigeria, killing 32 and taking away at least 185 hostages, including women and children.

http://news.yahoo.com/boko-haram-kidnap ... 24676.html


This is the new warfare I'm afraid Tim. Killing children, and their mothers.

What a horrible world.
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Re: Sydney Siege over

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:39 am

you really are a pillock. you are not 4 headed revisionists for nothing. so this sort of thing is new is it, it had not been done before.

it was not done in murataga atlilar and sandallalir by the greek cypriot national guard. and it was not done by the greeks in western anatolia turn of the last century, and it was also not done by the yanke soldiers in vietnam. which bloomin planet do you live in son.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre
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Re: Sydney Siege over

Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:54 am

Lordo wrote:you really are a pillock. you are not 4 headed revisionists for nothing. so this sort of thing is new is it, it had not been done before.

it was not done in murataga atlilar and sandallalir by the greek cypriot national guard. and it was not done by the greeks in western anatolia turn of the last century, and it was also not done by the yanke soldiers in vietnam. which bloomin planet do you live in son.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

Of course the Grey wolves were squeaky clean, also the Turkish invading army !!
You are a first class PLONKER !
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Re: Sydney Siege over

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:53 am

Paphitis wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Meanwhile, the bandits calling themselves Boko Haram have attacked the village of Gumsuri in northern Nigeria, killing 32 and taking away at least 185 hostages, including women and children.

http://news.yahoo.com/boko-haram-kidnap ... 24676.html


This is the new warfare I'm afraid Tim. Killing children, and their mothers.

What a horrible world.


I believe that history advances dialectically. It is a bit like stock exchanges, where a spell of frenetic buying precedes a crash, or the market slumps to an incredible low before the trend turns upwards again. All of this horror is a sign that a major turn is coming and that turn will be a process in the Muslim world similar to the Western Renaissance-Reformation-Englightenment. A horrible world - but I think it will lead to a much better one.
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Re: Sydney Siege over

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:08 pm

miltiades wrote:
Lordo wrote:you really are a pillock. you are not 4 headed revisionists for nothing. so this sort of thing is new is it, it had not been done before.

it was not done in murataga atlilar and sandallalir by the greek cypriot national guard. and it was not done by the greeks in western anatolia turn of the last century, and it was also not done by the yanke soldiers in vietnam. which bloomin planet do you live in son.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

Of course the Grey wolves were squeaky clean, also the Turkish invading army !!
You are a first class PLONKER !

where exactly did you see me claim the terggihs fascists or even terggish cypriot fascists are squeeky clean. you know, you greek sheepriots have one massive chip on your shoulders. if it is not the spelling then you take all comments out of context. your hopeless ausi friend made a claim that the world was changing ang he felt that the children are now being attacked. all i did was show him that it is in fact nothing new and has been done since the daw of time. in fact it is practiced regularly in the animal world too. i can only summise that you have got up very angry this morning. perhaps there is a reason for that. has ms palmer run out of griiiis maybe.
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Re: Sydney Siege over

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:33 pm

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Re: Sydney Siege over

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:27 pm

Lordo wrote:Here is one report of what the nigerian army and their supporters do. if you are going to say something at least understand the real picture and then show it. if you just accuse one side in the conflict, you than become complicit in the actions of the other side. there are those who are educated and think they know it all. where i am from they are referred to as garacahil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA7SIbvEO64&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DGA7SIbvEO64&has_verified=1


The footage here is very disturbing, although if you read the comments below you will see that some commentators doubt this is the Nigerian army, and such events should not happen. On the other hand, an atrocity committed in the course of a government operation against insurgents does not amount to systematic oppression against the population at large. The Nigerian government is fighting an insurgency by a group of religious fanatics who are opposed to the secular national education system in the country. I cannot support them in this. In my view, all countries should have secular national education systems and religion should not be on the curriculum at all unless it is comparative religion that teaches some basic objective knowledge of all the main world religions in a spirit of respect and tolerance. It is the job of religious establishments to brainwash children in a version of the God delusion, if that is what parents wish for their children. So, as far as I am concerned, the Nigerian government is right to fight this insurgency and, of course, should do so within the rule of law. Any breaches of the law should be investigated and those guilty should be prosecuted. On the other hand, the article to which I provided a link points to very real systematic oppression of the population of northern Nigeria by the religious fanatics who are becoming ever more powerful there.
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Re: Sydney Siege over

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:54 pm

the real problem in nigeria is oil and the wests hunger for cheap oil. the western corporation with the full complicity of their governments do everything in their power to keep dictators in power and supply them with cheap resources so their pockets are filled with dollars.

nigeria is no exception. it does not pass a single test as far as democracy is concerned and oppresses all her people not just the muslims. how much rights do workers have or farmers have against shell. to say that the atrocities shown in the video were not of the army is not correct. it was the army who beat those young people till they jumped in to truck they were provided and it was the army who shot the lot later. the beheading may look as though it is not the army but really do you think the army has no idea it is going on. you know we has similar situation in cyprus in the 60s. tcs used to be picked up by the police and handed over to eoka to kill. and we have swine hear who swear the state was not involved. people who want to see the truth will see it blindfolded. those who do not wish to see the truth they would deny their own doings.

i have never defended any murderer of any religion or race. how ever there people here who jump on the band wagon when muslims are involved and condone the killing of muslim children when israel is involved under the heading qualateral damage.

either you are against murder or for it, there is no excuses.

i will say one last thing, if the nigerian government was democratic these fanatics would not prosper and grow stronger. there is always two sides to every coin.
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Re: Sydney Siege over

Postby Cap » Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:21 pm



Not a single Christian Cross, or anything pertaining to Christianity in these hundreds of pics...


as opposed to...

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Back up your claims please.
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