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'North Cyprus' advertisements in London

Postby ISXYS » Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:40 pm

A campaign in the form of a signatures petition is underway to convince the British authorities to re-evaluate the situation with 'North Cyprus' advertisements on London's Transportation network.

If you feel you would like to sign the protest, or just want to see what it is about, please visit: http://www.isxys.org/addsxolia.php

Thank you for your time.
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Postby Sotos » Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:48 pm

Hello SIXYS! I suppose this form is only for UK students since "university" is a required field?
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Postby ISXYS » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:04 pm

Dear Sotos, it is addressed to anybody that is offended by the decision we are dealing with and by the advertisements that found their way on London buses and the Underground, showing (among others) Bellapais, Kyrenia and beaches of the occupied areas, inviting tourists to visit 'North Cyprus'.

The 'POLH/PANEPISTHMIO' field is exactly aimed to cover both students and non-students tha wish to sign the petition. As you can see from the signatures (http://www.isxys.org/sxolia) people (and not only Cypriots) from around the world have been signing and supporting this claim.

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Postby Rude Gal » Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:51 pm

ISXYS wrote:Dear Sotos, it is addressed to anybody that is offended by the decision we are dealing with and by the advertisements that found their way on London buses and the Underground, showing (among others) Bellapais, Kyrenia and beaches of the occupied areas, inviting tourists to visit 'North Cyprus'.

The 'POLH/PANEPISTHMIO' field is exactly aimed to cover both students and non-students tha wish to sign the petition. As you can see from the signatures (http://www.isxys.org/sxolia) people (and not only Cypriots) from around the world have been signing and supporting this claim.

Regards.


I'm sad to see Greek Cypriots trying yet again to obstruct the legitimate interests of Turkish Cypriots. It may be hard to see lands and hotels that were once Greek Cypriot owned being used for the benefit of others, but this trauma exists for thousands of Turkish Cypriots too. Yet you do not see Turkish Cypriots trying to prevent Greek Cypriots doing business on their former lands?

Until there is a fair and permanent settlement, it is unreal and unfair to stop people trying to progress their lives - especially when the other side is benefitting (and has been for years) from doing exactly the same with our land.

Larnaca airport is built on Turkish Cypriot land and 103 villages were ethnically cleansed of their Turkish Cypriot occupants between 1963-1974, including the entire village of Vroisha (at foot of Troodos mountains) in 1964 (which rebuts the myth that all of Cyprus' problems started in 1974).

There are numerous other examples of our trauma, which are ignored by most Greek Cypriots who only see their pain and loss, not their own handywork which culminated in their own tragic fate - splitting up the island was a necessary evil to prevent Turkish Cypriots suffering any more abuse from Greeks. Sadly Turkey was only able to stop the physical terror. The economic, political and cultural embargoes against Turkish Cypriots continue unabated since Dec 1963.

Your petition and similar actions will only serve to further alienate the two sides. It will demonstrate Greek Cypriots cannot be trusted, they still want to dominate and their mentality continues to be "my island, my rights rule; I can advertise my tourism, Turkish Cypriots shouldn't be allowed. To hell with their pain, past or present." Hardly the way forward to reuniting the island????

We have all suffered and we all have to move on. Cyprus is the common homeland of both Cypriot peoples, Greek and Turkish, and we are all entitled to the same rights and opportunities. If our ads are banned, so should yours. Better that both are allowed. And when the two sides finally settle their differences (the onus being on sooner rather than later) all those who have suffered will be compensated.

So, if you care about equality for all in Cyprus, and for a fair and free island, then please do not sign this petition.

Peace.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:25 pm

It may be hard to see lands and hotels that were once Greek Cypriot owned being used for the benefit of others, but this trauma exists for thousands of Turkish Cypriots too. Yet you do not see Turkish Cypriots trying to prevent Greek Cypriots doing business on their former lands?

Thats your wishful thinking. Maybe you didn't hear about the ECHR decisions that confirm for once more that the lands of Greek Cypriots in the now illegally occupied part of Cyprus are not "former" at all and that not only they should be given back to them but also a compensation should be given to the refugees for the 31 years that were illegally kept away from their own lands.

Until there is a fair and permanent settlement, it is unreal and unfair to stop people trying to progress their lives - especially when the other side is benefiting (and has been for years) from doing exactly the same with our land.

It is you who insist on illegality. why don't you accept legality so we can return to our land and you to your land? Is it maybe because you stole twice as much from what you left behind? Yes, thats it!




We have all suffered and we all have to move on. Cyprus is the common homeland of both Cypriot peoples, Greek and Turkish, and we are all entitled to the same rights and opportunities.

Then why you insist on the illegal occupation and do not accept that all refugees (GCs and TCs) should be allowed to return to their own homes????

If our ads are banned, so should yours.

The legitimate Republic of Cyprus can not be compared with the illegal puppet state of Turkey, called "TRNC" who is build by ethnically cleansing 200.000 Greek Cypriots.

The conclusion is: You want to continue the crimes? Continue, but don't cry about the consequences of your crimes. you can stop the isolation and everything else very easily: Stop violating our human rights and illegally occupying part of our country!

You want to continue your crimes and stop having any consequences for the illegal occupation of Cyprus so the Cyprus problem will be a problem only for the Greek Cyprus. It will not happen.

Your problem will be solved when our problem will be solved. The problem will be solved when you accept that the human rights of nobody should be violated. As long as you do not accept this you will have a problem.
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Postby ONURLU_1925 » Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:40 pm

KKTC ( Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus) build by ethnicallay cleansing 200.000 Grek Cypriots. I am laughing only.
Greece and its muppet Greek Cypriots establish EOKA and EOKA wanted to make genocide to Turkish Cypriots.
Turkey defend Turkish Cypriots, because of national bonds. Turkish 1974 responce is not illegal, it is Turkey's right, which gained in 1960's constitutional law.

Today, KKTC is an independence country. Because of countries, which don't want Turkey to be a powerful country, KKTC are not known, but will be known. Advertising is an important right of an independence country, isn't it? KKTC is an independence country, it doesn't matter you sign or don't sign this petition, KKTC adverts continues.
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Postby Main_Source » Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:59 pm

I'm sad to see Greek Cypriots trying yet again to obstruct the legitimate interests of Turkish Cypriots. It may be hard to see lands and hotels that were once Greek Cypriot owned being used for the benefit of others, but this trauma exists for thousands of Turkish Cypriots too. Yet you do not see Turkish Cypriots trying to prevent Greek Cypriots doing business on their former lands?


Your by yourself in thinking Greek Cypriots do not own the properties they had stolen from them...well, ask the ECHR....and the only reason TC do not prevent Greek Cypriots from TC owned land in the south is because 95% of that land is used by GC refugees from the north. It is not commercially exploited to parasites such as the Orams. Anyway, if a TC did take RoC to the ECHR (which I would love to see)...it would only pave way for people getting their legitimate properties and homes back...something which Turkey does not want to see happening.

Until there is a fair and permanent settlement, it is unreal and unfair to stop people trying to progress their lives - especially when the other side is benefitting (and has been for years) from doing exactly the same with our land.


See above. Besides, most TC left the south on their own accord or were pesuaded to do so (or be shot) by the TMT.

Larnaca airport is built on Turkish Cypriot land and 103 villages were ethnically cleansed of their Turkish Cypriot occupants between 1963-1974, including the entire village of Vroisha (at foot of Troodos mountains) in 1964 (which rebuts the myth that all of Cyprus' problems started in 1974).


You dont happend to come from the bullshit site of ATCA do you? 'Ethnically cleansed'? If you KNOW what that term means...then you will UNDERSTAND that real ethnic cleansing (the act to cleanse an area of a particular ethnicity) happened in 1974. Before then, there were intercommunal clashes and about the same number of GC and TC died.

There are numerous other examples of our trauma, which are ignored by most Greek Cypriots who only see their pain and loss, not their own handywork which culminated in their own tragic fate - splitting up the island was a necessary evil to prevent Turkish Cypriots suffering any more abuse from Greeks. Sadly Turkey was only able to stop the physical terror. The economic, political and cultural embargoes against Turkish Cypriots continue unabated since Dec 1963.


You will see many Greek Cypriot admit to their problems and crimes (like EOKA B)...what you will not see is Turkish Cypriots doing the same. Turkey has been unleashing terror for the last 31 years by commiting REAL ethnic cleansing and stopping Greek and Maronite Cypriots (do you know who Maronites are? not many TC do) from their ancestrol home. The only people preventing TC from doing international business from the north is Turkey...TC have many rights to do business in the legitimate and free areas of Cyprus.

Your petition and similar actions will only serve to further alienate the two sides. It will demonstrate Greek Cypriots cannot be trusted, they still want to dominate and their mentality continues to be "my island, my rights rule; I can advertise my tourism, Turkish Cypriots shouldn't be allowed. To hell with their pain, past or present." Hardly the way forward to reuniting the island????
You must be from ATCA lol. What you want to advertise is the exploitation of land owned by GC refugees...why should we stand for this? We have every right to lobby against this and lobby for our human rights until justice is done. There is no peace in Cyprus right now...only a cease-fire....so get the idea of this stupid phrase 'Turkish Peace Intervention' out of your mind.

We have all suffered and we all have to move on. Cyprus is the common homeland of both Cypriot peoples, Greek and Turkish, and we are all entitled to the same rights and opportunities. If our ads are banned, so should yours. Better that both are allowed. And when the two sides finally settle their differences (the onus being on sooner rather than later) all those who have suffered will be compensated.

So, if you care about equality for all in Cyprus, and for a fair and free island, then please do not sign this petition.

Peace.


Unless you want to see people's homes and history exploited by parasites such as the Orams, whose acts also make it trickier for justice and repatriation of refugees, then sign this petition.
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Postby Main_Source » Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:02 pm

I'm sad to see Greek Cypriots trying yet again to obstruct the legitimate interests of Turkish Cypriots. It may be hard to see lands and hotels that were once Greek Cypriot owned being used for the benefit of others, but this trauma exists for thousands of Turkish Cypriots too. Yet you do not see Turkish Cypriots trying to prevent Greek Cypriots doing business on their former lands?


Your by yourself in thinking Greek Cypriots do not own the properties they had stolen from them...well, ask the ECHR....and the only reason TC do not prevent Greek Cypriots from advertising holidays on TC owned land in the south is because 95% of that TC land is used by GC refugees from the north and not much holidaying or commerical activity is done...that is why the GC have set up board to deal specifically with TC land in the south.
It is not commercially exploited to parasites such as the Orams.

Anyway, if a TC did take RoC to the ECHR (which I would love to see)...it would only pave way for people getting their legitimate properties and homes back...something which Turkey does not want to see happening.

Until there is a fair and permanent settlement, it is unreal and unfair to stop people trying to progress their lives - especially when the other side is benefitting (and has been for years) from doing exactly the same with our land.


See above. Besides, most TC left the south on their own accord or were pesuaded to do so (or be shot) by the TMT.

Larnaca airport is built on Turkish Cypriot land and 103 villages were ethnically cleansed of their Turkish Cypriot occupants between 1963-1974, including the entire village of Vroisha (at foot of Troodos mountains) in 1964 (which rebuts the myth that all of Cyprus' problems started in 1974).


You dont happend to come from the bullshit site of ATCA do you? 'Ethnically cleansed'? If you KNOW what that term means...then you will UNDERSTAND that real ethnic cleansing (the act to cleanse an area of a particular ethnicity) happened in 1974. Before then, there were intercommunal clashes and about the same number of GC and TC died.

There are numerous other examples of our trauma, which are ignored by most Greek Cypriots who only see their pain and loss, not their own handywork which culminated in their own tragic fate - splitting up the island was a necessary evil to prevent Turkish Cypriots suffering any more abuse from Greeks. Sadly Turkey was only able to stop the physical terror. The economic, political and cultural embargoes against Turkish Cypriots continue unabated since Dec 1963.


You will see many Greek Cypriot admit to their problems and crimes (like EOKA B)...what you will not see is Turkish Cypriots doing the same. Turkey has been unleashing terror for the last 31 years by commiting REAL ethnic cleansing and stopping Greek and Maronite Cypriots (do you know who Maronites are? not many TC do) from their ancestrol home. The only people preventing TC from doing international business from the north is Turkey...TC have many rights to do business in the legitimate and free areas of Cyprus.

Your petition and similar actions will only serve to further alienate the two sides. It will demonstrate Greek Cypriots cannot be trusted, they still want to dominate and their mentality continues to be "my island, my rights rule; I can advertise my tourism, Turkish Cypriots shouldn't be allowed. To hell with their pain, past or present." Hardly the way forward to reuniting the island????
You must be from ATCA lol. What you want to advertise is the exploitation of land owned by GC refugees...why should we stand for this? We have every right to lobby against this and lobby for our human rights until justice is done. There is no peace in Cyprus right now...only a cease-fire....so get the idea of this stupid phrase 'Turkish Peace Intervention' out of your mind.

We have all suffered and we all have to move on. Cyprus is the common homeland of both Cypriot peoples, Greek and Turkish, and we are all entitled to the same rights and opportunities. If our ads are banned, so should yours. Better that both are allowed. And when the two sides finally settle their differences (the onus being on sooner rather than later) all those who have suffered will be compensated.

So, if you care about equality for all in Cyprus, and for a fair and free island, then please do not sign this petition.

Peace.


Unless you want to see people's homes and history exploited by parasites such as the Orams, whose acts also make it trickier for justice and repatriation of refugees, then sign this petition.
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