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Is winning a war the only way GC refugees can return?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Winning a war is the only way all GC refugees can return?

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Total votes : 22

Postby Eric dayi » Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:08 pm

zan wrote:What you guys are forgetting is that the TCs owned 32.8% of the land in Cyprus before they were systematically slaughtered and burned out of their homes. Where would you put that into your equations??????


They don't, because it doesn't suit their purpose! :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Kifeas » Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:32 pm

zan wrote:What you guys are forgetting is that the TCs owned 32.8% of the land in Cyprus before they were systematically slaughtered and burned out of their homes. Where would you put that into your equations??????


You are joking of course! Such has never been the case, at least during the last 100 years that there are land registry records in relation to property ownership in Cyprus.
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Postby zan » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:18 pm

Kifeas wrote:
zan wrote:What you guys are forgetting is that the TCs owned 32.8% of the land in Cyprus before they were systematically slaughtered and burned out of their homes. Where would you put that into your equations??????


You are joking of course! Such has never been the case, at least during the last 100 years that there are land registry records in relation to property ownership in Cyprus.


I am not trying to be contentious on the matter Kifeas but I thought that all the records were burnt in 74 as to this issue. Could you point me in the right direction as to finding out more on this. Thank you.
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Postby Kifeas » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:53 pm

zan wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
zan wrote:What you guys are forgetting is that the TCs owned 32.8% of the land in Cyprus before they were systematically slaughtered and burned out of their homes. Where would you put that into your equations??????


You are joking of course! Such has never been the case, at least during the last 100 years that there are land registry records in relation to property ownership in Cyprus.


I am not trying to be contentious on the matter Kifeas but I thought that all the records were burnt in 74 as to this issue. Could you point me in the right direction as to finding out more on this. Thank you.


Who said that the records were all burned in 1974? This is totally and completelly wrong!

Nevertheless, are you asking about the percentage of land ownership in 1974, in 1960, in 1900, or 1571?

Where did you find the 32.8% of TC ownership?

This is the after 1974 ownership situation from the records of the Land Registry Department.
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Postby pantheman » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:29 pm

Hello guys,

seems the cyprus problem is hot on the agenda on the forum of late, so here is my 2 cents worth.

The GCs will only get back cyprus if the USA & UK say so period.

Anything else is just bullsh#t. Your EU is just hot air and your Anan even worst. Anan is just a USA puppet.

So thats the alternative, be nice to the USA and we might be allowed to stay.

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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:41 pm

Simon wrote:Now isn't that the fairest solution?


So what you really mean is a Greek Cypriot dominated state with the Turkish Cypriots reduced to a minority.

Answer = OXI

Dream on Simon all about you can do...... :lol:

We are better off as we are, we'll stay as the TRNC, even isolation is better than what you are suggesting.
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Postby Eric dayi » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:25 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:Now isn't that the fairest solution?


So what you really mean is a Greek Cypriot dominated state with the Turkish Cypriots reduced to a minority.

Answer = OXI

Dream on Simon all about you can do...... :lol:

We are better off as we are, we'll stay as the TRNC, even isolation is better than what you are suggesting.


VP, whatch it, the GC's like saying OXI but can't take NO for an answer.
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Postby Eric dayi » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:26 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:Now isn't that the fairest solution?


So what you really mean is a Greek Cypriot dominated state with the Turkish Cypriots reduced to a minority.

Answer = OXI

Dream on Simon all about you can do...... :lol:

We are better off as we are, we'll stay as the TRNC, even isolation is better than what you are suggesting.


VP, carefull, the GC's like saying OXI but can't take NO for an answer. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Simon » Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:58 pm

Exactly VP and Eric, now you have shown your true colours. You would rather partition than proportional representation. Why, because you seem to just blatantly deny the fact that the TCs are the minority and just want to grab as much as you can. 18% IS A MINORITY, IF YOU HAVE A SENSIBLE ARGUMENT TO SUGGEST THAT THE TCs SHOULD HAVE 50%, CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME. And don't say its because you can't trust GCs etc, because back in 1974, Greece had a military junta. That is not the case now and certainly won't be again now Greece is a part of the EU. Therefore, any sort of coup is hardly likely is it.

Eric was saying if we are all Cypriot, 50:50 shouldn't be a problem. So if we are all Cypriot, we wouldn't need any proportional representation anyway and the Cypriots can just elect who they want. But you reject that, aswell as propertional representation. THEREFORE, THE ONLY SOLUTION YOU FAVOUR IS PARTITION. It is so clear and anyone on the outside who can't see it must be blind. You demand an unreasonable proportion of power-sharing so that the partition can remain.

Therefore, it is pointless trying to negotiate with people who do not believe in equitable solutions, justice and fairness. The only way the GCs will get their land back is by force.

Finally, Pantheman is absolutely right. I would just like to take that point a step further and say, Turkey wouldn't even have a look in on the Cyprus issue today, if it wasn't for Britain originally, and the US today, allowing them to. Why? Because of Turkey's strategic position. That's justice for you.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:57 pm

Simon says:
Therefore, it is pointless trying to negotiate with people who do not believe in equitable solutions, justice and fairness. The only way the GCs will get their land back is by force.



Don't say that,Simon.Eric will accuse you of being a warmonger...
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