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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Garavnoss » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:51 pm

miltiades wrote:You appear to be a knowledgable man, perhaps you can tell us how long has man been on earth, science tells us about 200,000 years where as religion says 6000.

By the way, Israel has a perfect right to defend it self against those who are hell bent on its destruction. Same people who want sharia law imposed on the entire civilized world.



I have some sympathy for you since you seem unable to grasp the significance of that which you both read AND write.

Let me put you a case :- Are you aware of the fact that the fanatical Islamists and Jihadists would absolutely LOVE you ?, you think not but I can assure you they would, for a particular reason, YOU ARE ARMING THEM WITH A VITAL WEAPON !........disbelief in the Almighty.

By condemning the existence of God, you remove the excuse the Jews (and Israeli's, I make a distinction) have for their existence.

You wish to portray yourself as a dependable ally to Israel without realizing that the Jew (Israeli) would HATE you with much the same degree as would the Islamist and Jihadist LOVE you.

You often advise those who oppose your views to join the Jihadi's yet, in truth, YOU do more to bolster their actions than any other member on the forum (as far as I am aware currently) when you spout nonsense and in particular THIS nonsense on THIS topic.

Can you not see it ?.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Get Real! » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:52 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:Right, and if you believe that everything is God's will, then God created humans with free will, and clearly, through the exercise of free will, some people will chose to be atheists. Therefore God wishes there to be atheists.

Just because a little old uneducated lady may have concluded that some unpleasant event was “God’s will” doesn’t necessarily mean that she was correct or that she represents God, so don’t make a meal out of it. :roll:
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:53 pm

Some people here are talking about reading the Bible, so let’s do that and look at some of the nonsense and outright contradictions contained in this book that people in many countries for many years were forced at the pain of death to accept as being the absolute truth.

The contradiction: which were created first, beasts or man?

VERSION ONE:
GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

VERSION TWO:
GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Just one example you will find at:
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_ ... tions.html
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Right, and if you believe that everything is God's will, then God created humans with free will, and clearly, through the exercise of free will, some people will chose to be atheists. Therefore God wishes there to be atheists.

Just because a little old uneducated lady may have concluded that some unpleasant event was “God’s will” doesn’t necessarily mean that she was correct or that she represents God, so don’t make a meal out of it. :roll:


Unpleasant events are not God's will? You are saying that things happen of their own accord in the universe, not because God wishes them to happen.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:57 pm

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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Get Real! » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:59 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Right, and if you believe that everything is God's will, then God created humans with free will, and clearly, through the exercise of free will, some people will chose to be atheists. Therefore God wishes there to be atheists.

Just because a little old uneducated lady may have concluded that some unpleasant event was “God’s will” doesn’t necessarily mean that she was correct or that she represents God, so don’t make a meal out of it. :roll:

Unpleasant events are not God's will? You are saying that things happen of their own accord in the universe, not because God wishes them to happen.

According to the bible there are no interferences during the period that God granted man to have dominion over the Earth and choose life.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Garavnoss » Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:02 pm

@ Miltiades.


I have some sympathy for you since you seem unable to grasp the significance of that which you both read AND write.

Let me put you a case :- Are you aware of the fact that the fanatical Islamists and Jihadists would absolutely LOVE you ?, you think not but I can assure you they would, for a particular reason, YOU ARE ARMING THEM WITH A VITAL WEAPON !........disbelief in the Almighty.

By condemning the existence of God, you remove the excuse the Jews (and Israeli's, I make a distinction) have for their existence.

You wish to portray yourself as a dependable ally to Israel without realizing that the Jew (Israeli) would HATE you with much the same degree as would the Islamist and Jihadist LOVE you.

You often advise those who oppose your views to join the Jihadi's yet, in truth, YOU do more to bolster their actions than any other member on the forum (as far as I am aware currently) when you spout nonsense and in particular THIS nonsense on THIS topic.

Can you not see it ?.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Get Real! » Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:03 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:The contradiction: which were created first, beasts or man?

Couldn't you find something more important? :)

The Bible was written over a period of around 2000 years by 40 different authors from three continents who wrote in three different languages!

Furthermore there are 929 chapters in the Old Testament and 260 chapters in the New Testament giving a total of 1,189 chapters! :lol:

Now, what’s the probability that a bunch of uneducated peasants were capable of collaborating to write a continuous complex story non stop that spanned that long?

I’d say the chances of such a feat in those days were ZERO without divine intervention, in fact you'd be hard pressed to achieve that with today’s technology! :lol:

That's what makes the bible so intriguing!
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby miltiades » Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:19 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:The contradiction: which were created first, beasts or man?

Couldn't you find something more important? :)

The Bible was written over a period of around 2000 years by 40 different authors from three continents who wrote in three different languages!

Furthermore there are 929 chapters in the Old Testament and 260 chapters in the New Testament giving a total of 1,189 chapters! :lol:

Now, what’s the probability that a bunch of uneducated peasants were capable of collaborating to write a continuous complex story non stop that spanned that long?

I’d say the chances of such a feat in those days were ZERO without divine intervention, in fact you'd be hard pressed to achieve that with today’s technology! :lol:

That's what makes the bible so intriguing!

Intriguing as the comment you, a religious zelot, made some time back.
" GO AND FUCK YOUR DEAD MOTHERS CORPSE"
You bloody psychopathic hypocrite. Full of hatred for the Americans, the Jews and the west in general. Listen Plonker, who created the Americans who you passionately hate!!

Coming from you does take the buiscuit !!
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Get Real! » Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:22 pm

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:The contradiction: which were created first, beasts or man?

Couldn't you find something more important? :)

The Bible was written over a period of around 2000 years by 40 different authors from three continents who wrote in three different languages!

Furthermore there are 929 chapters in the Old Testament and 260 chapters in the New Testament giving a total of 1,189 chapters! :lol:

Now, what’s the probability that a bunch of uneducated peasants were capable of collaborating to write a continuous complex story non stop that spanned that long?

I’d say the chances of such a feat in those days were ZERO without divine intervention, in fact you'd be hard pressed to achieve that with today’s technology! :lol:

That's what makes the bible so intriguing!

Intriguing as the comment you, a religious zelot, made some time back.
" GO AND FUCK YOUR DEAD MOTHERS CORPSE"
You bloody psychopathic hypocrite. Full of hatred for the Americans, the Jews and the west in general. Listen Plonker, who created the Americans who you passionately hate!!

Coming from you does take the buiscuit !!

I have no respect for garbage like you so you can go double-fuck both your parents for all I care! :lol:

Have a bardouza on me! :wink:
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