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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Maximus » Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:55 am

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Maximus wrote:Are you an advanced diver Paphitis? Nitrox?


Yes I am an Advance PADI accredited Diver. I use Nitrox.


Nice, Any wreck dives?
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:56 am

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I think you under estimate them and hence you do not value them as much as we do because another thing religion does is give man a sense of superiority over them. You believe they are incapable of hope and emotions but that quite simply is not the case.

Yes they have instincts, and humans have the same instincts as these animals such as the survival instinct which is very important in the animal world. I would argue that it is still just as important for humans, because sadly, humans need to have their wits about them due to the number of human predators around who would without any consideration do away with you as opposed to animals who simply only kill to survive in most cases.

There is NOTHING Godly about Humans I'm afraid.


Paphitis, if you put me in an ocean with a big hungry shark in the vicinity, I know I'm food. I don't underestimate animals.

Humans are superior though and they are certainly not godly.


You see! You have misconceptions about Sharks and don't understand them very well.

I have dived all over the world Max, and have swam with many species of Sharks.

The most notable was a harmless Whale Shark about 6 metres long. I got within 2 feet of it and swam alongside for a few minutes or as long as I could keep up with it. it was eyeball to eyeball stuff. now that is what I call Spiritual!!

Because of my tendency to take some risks, I researched Sharks quite extensively since I would regularly venture into their domain.

I've been face to face with Black Tips, White Tips, Shovel Nosed Sharks, Lemon Sharks, Rays, Nurse Shark and even Tiger Sharks and the Great Whites.

No Shark would EVER attack you for no reason. It would have to be hungry. You are also an unknown food source to them, hence they will only attack if they are desperate and no other food was available. You will never know you are being attacked until you're bitten. Usually, if you have seen a Great White, they will not attack because they rely on the element of surprise.

Another thing, because you are an unknown food source, usually they will hit you with their body first so that they can feel your texture. Yes they are fussy eaters.

So NO, you're not necessarily food for them.

Usually Shark Attacks are as a result of mistaken identity. Usually surfers that look like Turtles or Seals from the bottom.


Maybe that was a bad example, but you catch my drift. Put me in the jungle and I join the hierarchy as food for a lot of animals.

I have also been close to a white tip in the red sea.


One I forgot to mention was Bronze Whalers. They have the potential to be dangerous as well.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:01 am

Maximus wrote:
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Maximus wrote:Are you an advanced diver Paphitis? Nitrox?


Yes I am an Advance PADI accredited Diver. I use Nitrox.


Nice, Any wreck dives?


Only one. HMAS Brisbane.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Maximus » Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:04 am

Paphitis wrote:
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Maximus wrote:Are you an advanced diver Paphitis? Nitrox?


Yes I am an Advance PADI accredited Diver. I use Nitrox.


Nice, Any wreck dives?


Only one. HMAS Brisbane.


I did the Thistlegorm. Its an old WW2 British battle / merchant ship that got sunk by the Nazis. There's still a lot of old rifles, cars, motorcycles and anti aircraft bullets down there.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:17 am

Maximus wrote:
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Maximus wrote:Are you an advanced diver Paphitis? Nitrox?


Yes I am an Advance PADI accredited Diver. I use Nitrox.


Nice, Any wreck dives?


Only one. HMAS Brisbane.


I did the Thistlegorm. Its an old WW2 British battle / merchant ship that got sunk by the Nazis. There's still a lot of old rifles, cars, motorcycles and anti aircraft bullets down there.


You still dive Max?

If so, we can go and do the Norwegian Ship in Cyprus together in June. I can't remember the name but there is a thread about it on this forum.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Maximus » Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:30 am

Yes, alright, we can do the Zenobia too.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Paphitis » Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:42 am

Maximus wrote:Yes, alright, we can do the Zenobia too.


Exellento! :)

I will PM you closer to the date. Will only be in Cyprus for 10 days so not a lot of time.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Maximus » Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:47 am

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Maximus wrote:Yes, alright, we can do the Zenobia too.


Exellento! :)

I will PM you closer to the date. Will only be in Cyprus for 10 days so not a lot of time.


Welcome. Cool. Ive got a GoPro camera so we can record it too.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby miltiades » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:29 am

A quick search on the internet will confirm that 99% of terrorist groups are .... religious !!!

In Kenya, in the recent massacre, religion was the deciding factor in determining who lived and who was murdered.

Boko Haram enter a village killing and beheading dozens of innocent villagers. They say that their god tells them to kill non believers.

A quick search will also reveal that there is not one single group of non believers listed as a terrorist group. Yes there are criminal gangs not affiliated to religion, these gangs are just pure evil individuals committing horrific crimes in their lust for money.

Religion, the world over, has contributed NOTHING to world peace, has divided people, instilled fear and hatred, kept people in the dark ages.
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Re: RELIGIONS: THE CURSE OF HUMANITY

Postby Maximus » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:11 am

miltiades wrote:A quick search on the internet will confirm that 99% of terrorist groups are .... religious !!!

In Kenya, in the recent massacre, religion was the deciding factor in determining who lived and who was murdered.

Boko Haram enter a village killing and beheading dozens of innocent villagers. They say that their god tells them to kill non believers.

A quick search will also reveal that there is not one single group of non believers listed as a terrorist group. Yes there are criminal gangs not affiliated to religion, these gangs are just pure evil individuals committing horrific crimes in their lust for money.

Religion, the world over, has contributed NOTHING to world peace, has divided people, instilled fear and hatred, kept people in the dark ages.


That may be the case, 99% of terrorist groups may be religious, but are 99% of religious groups terrorists?

The PKK are not a religious group and they are down as terrorists.
The IRA was down as terrorist's but not religious.

What has killed more people, religious terrorist's or the corporate oligarchy in the modern secular world?
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