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[GreekIslandGirl]

Hours before the Rosetta spacecraft successfully placed the robotic probe Philae on the comet 67P Churyumov–Gerasimenko earlier this week, it provided astonishing proof that Muslims had already settled the 4km long rock.

[Lordo]

Hours before the Rosetta spacecraft successfully placed the robotic probe Philae on the comet 67P Churyumov–Gerasimenko earlier this week, it provided astonishing proof that Muslims had already settled the 4km long rock.

now you are being childish maxi. why would they claim a 4 km rock when they have the whole universe. they leave that and the black holes to greece

[supporttheunderdog]

As Allah is probably a figment of the deranged imagination of that well known child molester and sex maniac, Mohammed, (cursed be his name) then any Moslem claim to the Americas, or the Asteroid, let alone the universe, is probably about as valid as any other, i.e. F*ck all.......


(Moslem Literature attests to at least 66 women with whom Mohammed had sex, including Aisha, who was Six, when he married here: what a fine example he sets. One must wonder just how much Erdo is a follower of Mohammed's practices....)

[CBBB]

(Moslem Literature attests to at least 66 women with whom Mohammed had sex, including Aisha, who was Six, when he married here: what a fine example he sets. One must wonder just how much Erdo is a follower of Mohammed's practices....)

Why do you think he needs a 1,000 room palace and a 250 room residence? It is obviously to stash his underage harem.

[supporttheunderdog]

(Moslem Literature attests to at least 66 women with whom Mohammed had sex, including Aisha, who was Six, when he married here: what a fine example he sets. One must wonder just how much Erdo is a follower of Mohammed's practices....)

Why do you think he needs a 1,000 room palace and a 250 room residence? It is obviously to stash his underage harem.

That would make Jimmy Saville a modest saint by comparison....self-delusions of grandeur.

[Tim Drayton]

I can’t help feeling that the source of the confusion - and Erdoğan is not a very well educated or knowledgeable man - is the map dated 1513 made by an Ottoman admiral named Piri Reis. It maps the eastern coastline of North and South America very accurately, but actually postdates Christopher Columbus’ so-called discovery of America by a couple of decades (I say ‘so-called’ because in the first place America was inhabited when Columbus got there so it could only be a discovery in a Eurocentric sense, but even then, there is firm evidence to suggest that the Vikings had travelled to North America far earlier, and they had also found it to be inhabited at the time). Even so, I wonder if Columbus had really charted the coastline with the degree of accuracy seen on Piri Reis’ map, and right down to the Terra del Fuego. It does rather challenge the received version of events. However, the really enigmatic aspect of Piri Reis’ map was the way that it accurately charted the coastline of Antarctica beneath the ice.



http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm

[Tim Drayton]

(Moslem Literature attests to at least 66 women with whom Mohammed had sex, including Aisha, who was Six, when he married here: what a fine example he sets. One must wonder just how much Erdo is a follower of Mohammed's practices....)

Why do you think he needs a 1,000 room palace and a 250 room residence? It is obviously to stash his underage harem.

He also says that he is going to retain the old presidential residence/offices at Çankaya (to work from!) - which have been enough for every other president of the Republic up until now.

[CBBB]

I can’t help feeling that the source of the confusion - and Erdoğan is not a very well educated or knowledgeable man - is the map dated 1513 made by an Ottoman admiral named Piri Reis. It maps the eastern coastline of North and South America very accurately, but actually postdates Christopher Columbus’ so-called discovery of America by a couple of decades (I say ‘so-called’ because in the first place America was inhabited when Columbus got there so it could only be a discovery in a Eurocentric sense, but even then, there is firm evidence to suggest that the Vikings had travelled to North America far earlier, and they had also found it to be inhabited at the time). Even so, I wonder if Columbus had really charted the coastline with the degree of accuracy seen on Piri Reis’ map, and right down to the Terra del Fuego. It does rather challenge the received version of events. However, the really enigmatic aspect of Piri Reis’ map was the way that it accurately charted the coastline of Antarctica beneath the ice.



http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm

Check out wikipedia on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_ ... ctic_coast where it says the map gives credit to Columbus and the Antartica bit is in question.

[Tim Drayton]

I can’t help feeling that the source of the confusion - and Erdoğan is not a very well educated or knowledgeable man - is the map dated 1513 made by an Ottoman admiral named Piri Reis. It maps the eastern coastline of North and South America very accurately, but actually postdates Christopher Columbus’ so-called discovery of America by a couple of decades (I say ‘so-called’ because in the first place America was inhabited when Columbus got there so it could only be a discovery in a Eurocentric sense, but even then, there is firm evidence to suggest that the Vikings had travelled to North America far earlier, and they had also found it to be inhabited at the time). Even so, I wonder if Columbus had really charted the coastline with the degree of accuracy seen on Piri Reis’ map, and right down to the Terra del Fuego. It does rather challenge the received version of events. However, the really enigmatic aspect of Piri Reis’ map was the way that it accurately charted the coastline of Antarctica beneath the ice.



http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm

Check out wikipedia on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_ ... ctic_coast where it says the map gives credit to Columbus and the Antartica bit is in question.

Fair enough. I am no great expert in these matters - but I have a hunch that this is behind Erdoğan's allegations.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Fair enough. I am no great expert in these matters - but I have a hunch that this is behind Erdoğan's allegations.

According to Yialousa's article (Telegraph) Erdogan seems to be misguided by the metaphor used to describe the landscape.

In a controversial article published in 1996, historian Youssef Mroueh refers to a diary entry from Columbus that mentions a mosque in Cuba. But the passage is widely understood to be a metaphorical reference to the shape of the landscape.

Because of the novelty of so much that was seen 'first-hand', metaphors were probably used extensively by travelers/explorers in order to allow visualization by those back home.