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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:43 pm

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Get Real! wrote:It doesn’t matter if there were 1 million or 10 million because it happened 70 years ago and it’s no longer relevant.

On top of that Israel has since murdered enough of its neighbors to cancel out what was done to them in WWII and today, Israel has no legs to stand on.

Finally, one look at the 150 year old Zionist aspirations and you soon realize why Hitler did what he did…

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm


What happened to them 70 years ago is the reason Israel is one country not to mess with.

For them it's about survival and the fact that nearly all of their neighbors want their destruction.

Baloney! If you pour US BILLIONS year after year into tiny Lichtenstein, it too will become a superpower eventually.

The story you paint is Israeli fantasy.


There is a reason why they get this money.

They all work for their country and infiltrate positions of authority.

No other country has achieved as much from the Gas Chambers of 1943. Just look at the technologies they come up with and even the weapons they develop.

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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Get Real! » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:58 pm

Paphitis wrote:There is a reason why they get this money.

They all work for their country and infiltrate positions of authority.

That's besides the point.

No other country has achieved as much from the Gas Chambers of 1943. Just look at the technologies they come up with and even the weapons they develop.

They haven't achieved anything on their own but were spoon fed since the late 40s because the world felt sorry for them.

The picture you’re trying to paint that they did it all thanks to their hard work and industriousness is FUCKING BOGUS!

In fact Cyprus has suffered far worse than the Jews having endured 400+ years of slaughters and other horrific atrocities from the disgusting Islamo-fascist peasant Turks!
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:06 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:There is a reason why they get this money.

They all work for their country and infiltrate positions of authority.

That's besides the point.

No other country has achieved as much from the Gas Chambers of 1943. Just look at the technologies they come up with and even the weapons they develop.

They haven't achieved anything on their own but were spoon fed since the late 40s because the world felt sorry for them.

The picture you’re trying to paint that they did it all thanks to their hard work and industriousness is FUCKING BOGUS!

In fact Cyprus has suffered far worse than the Jews having endured 400+ years of slaughters and other horrific atrocities from the disgusting Islamo-fascist peasant Turks!


no it's not beside the point.

They have managed to build their country from nothing and at the same time keep their foes at bay. They have the most powerful lobbies in the world, and this is why they manage to get support for Israel.

Their country was formed in 1948 and since then they have innovated and perfected many technologies. I think they have surpassed the prowess of both Greece, Cyprus and Turkey combined.

Jews have endured persecutions over thousands of years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Jews

http://www.ushmm.org/research/the-cente ... -centuries
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Get Real! » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:26 pm

Like always you’re too stupid to grasp the key element… MONEY

Lot’s and lot’s of free MONEY!

Had Cyprus received just 1% of all that Israel has received thus far over the decades, we’d be a far greater power than Israel is hands down because the Cypriot is not a parasite but a genuinely industrious kind.
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:55 pm

Get Real! wrote:Like always you’re too stupid to grasp the key element… MONEY

Lot’s and lot’s of free MONEY!

Had Cyprus received just 1% of all that Israel has received thus far over the decades, we’d be a far greater power than Israel is hands down because the Cypriot is not a parasite but a genuinely industrious kind.


Israel has a GDP of 287 Billion which equates to $36000 per head.

It spend 8.9% of its GDP on its Military. Tell me which developed country does that?

Naturally, it is forced to spend big on its Military because it is under constant threat.

Further to this, the US mostly lends Israel money. The Israelis are also clever enough to lend the money back to the US by buying Federal Reserve Treasury Bills at a higher interest rate. True story. They are business people.

If Cyprus was to receive this US "aid", it will end up in Anastasiades', Christofias', Papadopoulos' et al offshore personal accounts and not in RoC coffers. And rather than lend it back to the US at a higher interest rate, they would lend it to Greece and lose the lot! :lol:

If you were industrious, then you wouldn't have an economic crisis. The Cypriots of the Diaspora are generally industrious and high achievers, not so much in Cyprus. I don't know why, it is just a phenomena I noticed. I suppose it could be because they migrated to work hard and achieve a better life and felt they had to because they sacrificed a lot by leaving their beloved Cyprus.

Was it not Israel that offered to lend the RoC the money to buy 2 x SAAR 72 Corvettes from them?
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby kurupetos » Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:09 pm

Sotos wrote:I actually watched the whole thing :shock: :shock: Interesting ... but still... his claim is that the numbers were exaggerated. Even if 1 million (instead of 4) died at Auschwitz, and even if they were not gassed but they died in the camp because of starvation and disease it would STILL be a genocide. He does not deny that the Jews were targeted and that in one way or another millions of them died because of the Nazis. Kurupetos, even you seem to have some pathological hate for the Jews... add to such hate the power of the Nazis before/during WWII and the Holocaust becomes a very possible outcome even before examining any evidence ;)

It's not much of a holocaust (or a genocide), if only a few Jews died. :roll: Many more Russians, Poles and Greeks died than Jews, but I have never heard of a Russian, Polish or Greek Holocaust. Why? :x

In reality, all these exaggerations were part of the plan to allow Jews to form Israel in 1948... :wink:
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:10 pm

...frankly, given who the Nazis are, their philosophy, it is quite a badge of honour, that "they", the Jews were the first, (because anyone but a Nazi was "next"), along with any other Individual showing signs, of free thought.

...and what if the numbers are more like 6 million, than four, what then? correct me if i'm wrong, but over the whole world, today, Jewish people number around 12 million. and yes, me too, i have always wondered why, what happened to the Greeks of the Anatole, and Greeks (read: not "Turkish") in Turkey, why was that not a Genocide; i think it was, kind of like what happened in Cyprus, it was in Bosnia that the world coined the phrase, ethnic cleansing.
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Sotos » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:13 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Sotos wrote:I actually watched the whole thing :shock: :shock: Interesting ... but still... his claim is that the numbers were exaggerated. Even if 1 million (instead of 4) died at Auschwitz, and even if they were not gassed but they died in the camp because of starvation and disease it would STILL be a genocide. He does not deny that the Jews were targeted and that in one way or another millions of them died because of the Nazis. Kurupetos, even you seem to have some pathological hate for the Jews... add to such hate the power of the Nazis before/during WWII and the Holocaust becomes a very possible outcome even before examining any evidence ;)

It's not much of a holocaust (or a genocide), if only a few Jews died. :roll: Many more Russians, Poles and Greeks died than Jews, but I have never heard of a Russian, Polish or Greek Holocaust. Why? :x

In reality, all these exaggerations were part of the plan to allow Jews to form Israel in 1948... :wink:


1 million at Auschwitz alone and several million in total is not "few".... and that is with the lower estimate. Others had big losses also but the difference is that the Jews had the biggest loses as a percentage of their population ... about 50% of them were killed!! The Soviets had more losses in absolute numbers but much smaller % of their total population. And it is not that the Russians and the others who had loses are silent about it.... it is a big deal for them too. I don't agree with trying to downplay the murder of millions. But I agree that some used this as an excuse to create Israel ... if anything a Jewish state should have been formed on German lands to punish the Germans... not in Palestine to screw the Palestinians who had nothing to do with the Holocaust.
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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Oceanside50 » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:11 pm

Get Real! wrote:It doesn’t matter if there were 1 million or 10 million because it happened 70 years ago and it’s no longer relevant.

On top of that Israel has since murdered enough of its neighbors to cancel out what was done to them in WWII and today, Israel has no legs to stand on.

Finally, one look at the 150 year old Zionist aspirations and you soon realize why Hitler did what he did…

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm


The protocols of Zion are a hoax

..
he Protocols of the Elders of Zion or The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion is an antisemitic hoax purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination.[1] It was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. Henry Ford funded printing of 500,000 copies that were distributed throughout the US in the 1920s.

Adolf Hitler and the Nazis publicized the text as though it were a valid document, although it had already been exposed as fraudulent. After the Nazi Party came to power in 1933, it ordered the text to be studied in German classrooms. The historian Norman Cohn suggested that Hitler used the Protocols as his primary justification for initiating the Holocaust—his "warrant for genocide".[2]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prot ... rs_of_Zion

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Re: The 'Holocaust'

Postby Oceanside50 » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:25 pm

Sotos wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Sotos wrote:I actually watched the whole thing :shock: :shock: Interesting ... but still... his claim is that the numbers were exaggerated. Even if 1 million (instead of 4) died at Auschwitz, and even if they were not gassed but they died in the camp because of starvation and disease it would STILL be a genocide. He does not deny that the Jews
were targeted and that in one way or another millions of them died because of the Nazis. Kurupetos, even you seem to have some pathological hate for the Jews... add to such hate the power of the Nazis before/during WWII and the Holocaust becomes a very possible outcome even before examining any evidence ;)

It's not much of a holocaust (or a genocide), if only a few Jews died. :roll: Many more Russians, Poles and Greeks died than Jews, but I have never heard of a Russian, Polish or Greek Holocaust. Why? :x

In reality, all these exaggerations were part of the plan to allow Jews to form Israel in 1948... :wink:


1 million at Auschwitz alone and several million in total is not "few".... and that is with the lower estimate. Others had big losses also but the difference is that the Jews had the biggest loses as a percentage of their population ... about 50% of them were killed!! The Soviets had more losses in absolute numbers but much smaller % of their total population. And it is not that the Russians and the others who had loses are silent about it.... it is a big deal for them too. I don't agree with trying to downplay the murder of millions. But I agree that some used this as an excuse to create Israel ... if anything a Jewish state should have been formed on German lands to punish the Germans... not in Palestine to screw the Palestinians who had nothing to do with the Holocaust.


the Jews began buying land (late 1800's)throughout Transjordan and the Palestinian elite thought they were getting great deals on useless land. The more land they bought the more the Palestinian elite wanted to sell. in many instances Palestinian sharecroppers working the lands of the elites were allowed to stay. Water rights were shared by the Jews with the Palestinians..the Jews didn't all of a sudden appear in 1948 and create Israel.. Trying to equate the Cyprus problem with the Israeli Palestinian issue is a mistake
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