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[repulsewarrior]

...so as a Cypriot, vote for the guy/gal that stands with a Flag of Cyprus behind them. vote, but destroy your ballot if you have to. if you really want to stick it to "Greeks" while recognising that Greeks, and Turks as opposed to "Turks", exist. fly the Flag which does not represent either, but Universal Values, demand a Greek Constituency, to secure an equality of Liberty, indeed demand Cypriot Constituencies, because there is a lot more than Turkish and Greek that belong to the Cypriot Ethnos, but if Freedom has a value we must be willing to defend it as Individuals, where only one Country exists, as Cypriots, demonstrating that despite our diversity, it is Cyprus that means something to us, it is the harmony of this intention that Turkey must choose too, or she will find herself more like Turkish Cypriots, in a world where they are by their own choosing outside the circles of the rest of the world and the progress it affords.

[Nikitas]

The only solution, take it or leave it. Well, it is not the only solution possible. Fairer and more democratic would be a Multi zonal, Multi Communal Federation. If 120 000 TCs are entitled to an autonomous region, with equal status with the majority then each of the distinct ethnic communities should have the same as the big two.

I have no problem with co equal Armenian, Latin, Maronite and Rom constituent states. Most of those communities have been here longer than the TCs and their historic roots entitle them to more than the passing note they got in the Avnan plan.

[kurupetos]

60 years of negotiations with the only plan ever bbf. there is no other option and there is no more to be said - take it or leave it. is there anything else to be said.

Why don't you just leave?

[repulsewarrior]

The only solution, take it or leave it. Well, it is not the only solution possible. Fairer and more democratic would be a Multi zonal, Multi Communal Federation. If 120 000 TCs are entitled to an autonomous region, with equal status with the majority then each of the distinct ethnic communities should have the same as the big two.

I have no problem with co equal Armenian, Latin, Maronite and Rom constituent states. Most of those communities have been here longer than the TCs and their historic roots entitle them to more than the passing note they got in the Avnan plan.

...what you are describing, is Bicommunal, and Bizonal; one Sovereignty in any case, Freedom, a Federation of Individuals which defends their Universal Principals, and as Persons, Liberty, as Constituencies the self-representation their electorate needs to sustain these distinct identities as a majority with Good Will, which recognises and respects the minorities amongst them by providing for their needs as well. i suggest that enclaves spotting the whole island may help in providing for the displaced a sense of Justice seen, a return as they left, at least for some as communities, a Constituency can be made up of components. Two levels of Government are the simplest way, i suppose, to define the "Bi", in these two words, political and geographic, respectively.

...i will add, the present debate is flawed. even if the Greek Constituency's support, is completely behind the Republic, they have no voice of their own. i ask, where is the Greek Constituency? without it, the Federal Government is impotent, unable to provide the guidance that is needed to all its Citizens. Cyprus, i believe would be far better off if it had a Republic and a Greek Constituency, as well as other Cypriot Constituencies. the Problem would likely be solved if it was the Constituencies (because Sovereignty is not part of their equation) which were left to decide for their needs, themselves, so that in unanimity, they could approach the President and the Federal Government for their consideration (at a Constitutional Level)...

[Lordo]

too late, it has been agreed in principle and it the detail that is not agreed upon. let your leader walk into the talks and declare that he would like something other than bbf.

i dare him. see if he has balls.

the greek constituency will be south of the green line to be agreed. i declare it as groc. and the north from hence forth will be known as troc.

[Get Real!]

too late, it has been agreed in principle and it the detail that is not agreed upon. let your leader walk into the talks and declare that he would like something other than bbf.

Talks are over.

[Lordo]

on the contrary, the old man nastias is coming back like a bitch on heat with her tail between her legs. with the top dog right behind her.

[kurupetos]

on the contrary, the old man nastias is coming back like a bitch on heat with her tail between her legs. with the top dog right behind her.

Is he your last hope? Poor YFred...

[Lordo]

what is it with you and this obsession with this person. dont you like being rejected. typical bloody greek cypriot, a bloody control freak

[bill cobbett]

Soddo! ... You buggers learning Ottoman Turkish, to keep Mr Erdogan happy...???

From http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/Defaul ... sCatID=338 ...

"... President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has waded into the heated debate over the possible inclusion of Ottoman language classes in the high school curriculum, vowing that the classes will be introduced “no matter what they say.”

“There are those who don’t want Ottoman [language] to be learned and taught. This is a very big danger,” Erdoğan said on Dec. 8, delivering a speech at “5th Religion Council” hosted by the Directorate General of Religious Affairs (Diyanet) in Ankara.

“Whether they want it or not, Ottoman [language] will be learned and taught in this country,” he pledged.

According to decisions taken by Turkey’s National Education Council, which closed its annual meeting over the weekend, Ottoman language classes will be compulsory for imam-hatip religious vocational high schools and elective for other high schools. ..."