Piratis wrote: They will change from issue to issue in Cyprus also. If everything was based on if we were TCs or GCs in Cyprus we would only have the TC party and the GC party. This is not the case.
Actually since the matters of language/culture and religion will be safeguarded and not subject to any majority decision, a TC can very well always belong in the majority (or minority) like any other Cypriot.
Historicasly there have been vital issues where the wishes of the GC community conflict with those of the TC community. In each and every one of these issue past and in the future you want a Cyprus where the will of the GC community will always overide that of the TC community.
Piratis wrote:
There is no such cause! The cause is Cyprus belongs to Cypriots equally!!
Is it so hard for you to understand? (no it is not, you just want to maintain conflict and hate).
I have no desire to maintain conflict and hate and your readiness to state that I do is in itslef hateful imo. To state that my views may have that consequence in your opinion is one thing but to state that it is what I want is entirely another.
For me a refusal to accept a principal of equality at the community level is the same thing as insinting that Cyprus is a GC state. Am I to be thankful that you agree we should all have equal status as individuals? Does than not go without saying? The issue is equality as communities / groups of people. If Cyprus is made up of two distinct groups of people and one group will always have the ability to 'democraticaly' impose its wishes on the whole island then you do not have a Cyprus that belongs to both communites equally. You have one that belongs to the numericaly larger community.
Piratis wrote:
For groups of people there are minority rights that are equal to the human rights.
The 'extra' rights you propose should be in the consitituion are not guaranteed at all by our status as a minority. To state we should have a right to these protections above and beyond the rights of a minority and also state we are a minority is a fundamental contradiction in your position and one you refuse to acknowledge or address.
Piratis wrote:
The constitution will.
The consitituion can be changed. In your idea of a solution that change will be determined by a GC majority. Any statement in the consitituion that says they can not be altered without the consent of the two communites contradicts your assertion that the TC are only a minority in Cyprus.
Piratis wrote:
Nothing will be in contradiction with human rights. Tell me with what human right the "Turkish as official language" contradicts???
The issue is clear and simple imo. If the consitituion states that Turkish is an offical language of Cyprus and TC community is a minority in Cyprus (in human rights terms) then there is NOTHING to stop this part of the consitution being removed at the will of a GC majority and against the wishes of a TC minority. If the consitution states that this article can not be altered without consent of the two seperate communites and also states the TC are a minority - then this is in clear contradiction with human rights. Minorites have no RIGHT to block the will of majorites.
It is you that has insisted on this 'strict' legalistic basis for a settment, not I. I have previously questioned the value of such an approach. In such an approach you can not have parts of the consitituion that are unalterable without eqaul consent of the two communites and at the same time define one of those communites as a political minority. This is a contradiction.
