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There is NO RIGHT AT ALL for Turkey from her status as guarantor. A guarantor is not a co-owner, and if it is then Greece has a share, which would make things interesting for us all. Turkey relinquished her guarantor status from the moment she ceased to recognise the RoC anyway.

Guaranteeing independence means reinforcing the rights of Cyprus to her natural resources, not challenging them.

As for the TCs rights, they depend on whether they want Taksim-Enosis with another power or if they still want one unitary Cypriot state. Till then their rights are suspended. This is pretty much the attitude of the international community who were convinced all these years by the TC demands for separation and are now totally confused about joint ownership of resources clearly in the south.

It was our mistake not to give you Taksim to the hilt in 1974. And be rid of this malingering misery of a "special needs" community moaning and groaning about everything while refusing to contribute the slightest in any meaningful way.

You are one confused bugger, it was the mess up until 1974 that gave Turkey the right to intervene and find a solution to the mishandindling of the "RoC" by the GCs that only worked for GCs and discriminated against TCs trying its hardest to take away their rights as per agreements signed by the GCs. So Turkeys presence here remains in your hands, you will not agree to any solution put before you, you do not want time tables and you run away form the negotiating table at every opportunity. We support BBF with political equality, do you?

[DT.]

There is NO RIGHT AT ALL for Turkey from her status as guarantor. A guarantor is not a co-owner, and if it is then Greece has a share, which would make things interesting for us all. Turkey relinquished her guarantor status from the moment she ceased to recognise the RoC anyway.

Guaranteeing independence means reinforcing the rights of Cyprus to her natural resources, not challenging them.

As for the TCs rights, they depend on whether they want Taksim-Enosis with another power or if they still want one unitary Cypriot state. Till then their rights are suspended. This is pretty much the attitude of the international community who were convinced all these years by the TC demands for separation and are now totally confused about joint ownership of resources clearly in the south.

It was our mistake not to give you Taksim to the hilt in 1974. And be rid of this malingering misery of a "special needs" community moaning and groaning about everything while refusing to contribute the slightest in any meaningful way.

You are one confused bugger, it was the mess up until 1974 that gave Turkey the right to intervene and find a solution to the mishandindling of the "RoC" by the GCs that only worked for GCs and discriminated against TCs trying its hardest to take away their rights as per agreements signed by the GCs. So Turkeys presence here remains in your hands, you will not agree to any solution put before you, you do not want time tables and you run away form the negotiating table at every opportunity. We support BBF with political equality, do you?

Do you support BBF with political equality as defined by the UN? Because that's the complete sentence you should've said. That's what's been proposed to you,

[Paphitis]

There is NO RIGHT AT ALL for Turkey from her status as guarantor. A guarantor is not a co-owner, and if it is then Greece has a share, which would make things interesting for us all. Turkey relinquished her guarantor status from the moment she ceased to recognise the RoC anyway.

Guaranteeing independence means reinforcing the rights of Cyprus to her natural resources, not challenging them.

As for the TCs rights, they depend on whether they want Taksim-Enosis with another power or if they still want one unitary Cypriot state. Till then their rights are suspended. This is pretty much the attitude of the international community who were convinced all these years by the TC demands for separation and are now totally confused about joint ownership of resources clearly in the south.

It was our mistake not to give you Taksim to the hilt in 1974. And be rid of this malingering misery of a "special needs" community moaning and groaning about everything while refusing to contribute the slightest in any meaningful way.

You are one confused bugger, it was the mess up until 1974 that gave Turkey the right to intervene and find a solution to the mishandindling of the "RoC" by the GCs that only worked for GCs and discriminated against TCs trying its hardest to take away their rights as per agreements signed by the GCs. So Turkeys presence here remains in your hands, you will not agree to any solution put before you, you do not want time tables and you run away form the negotiating table at every opportunity. We support BBF with political equality, do you?

No you do not support BBF with political equality as defined by the UN.

Why don't you be honest and tell us about the "BBF" you support! Why don't you be honest and just admit that you believe in a 2 State Solution, recognition of this State and an agreement for a union into a loose Confederation?

Why don't you be honest and admit that it was your side that has reneged on the Joint Communique?

The TCs have become such Boutanes it's not funny anymore.

[Nikitas]

We are fast approaching the point when Taksim will become the rallying cry for the GCs and Turkey will be pushing maniacally for a unitary state. Only in this case we have the upper hand, we can legalise and enforce Taksim and give them their "recognition" and be rid of their special needs community,

The Turks will soon realise that they have no stick in this case, and they will resort to the carrot. The interests involved in the gas and oil exploitation are stronger at every level and they are not impressed by the Gullible corvette floating around the platforms. I am guessing there will be some dramatic "goodwill gesture" to influence GC and Greek public opinion. That is when we will have to be extra careful. Turks are bazaar oriented, they do not have any conception of magnanimity or nobility, they make no gifts. There is always a price to pay.

[Viewpoint]

There is NO RIGHT AT ALL for Turkey from her status as guarantor. A guarantor is not a co-owner, and if it is then Greece has a share, which would make things interesting for us all. Turkey relinquished her guarantor status from the moment she ceased to recognise the RoC anyway.

Guaranteeing independence means reinforcing the rights of Cyprus to her natural resources, not challenging them.

As for the TCs rights, they depend on whether they want Taksim-Enosis with another power or if they still want one unitary Cypriot state. Till then their rights are suspended. This is pretty much the attitude of the international community who were convinced all these years by the TC demands for separation and are now totally confused about joint ownership of resources clearly in the south.

It was our mistake not to give you Taksim to the hilt in 1974. And be rid of this malingering misery of a "special needs" community moaning and groaning about everything while refusing to contribute the slightest in any meaningful way.

You are one confused bugger, it was the mess up until 1974 that gave Turkey the right to intervene and find a solution to the mishandindling of the "RoC" by the GCs that only worked for GCs and discriminated against TCs trying its hardest to take away their rights as per agreements signed by the GCs. So Turkeys presence here remains in your hands, you will not agree to any solution put before you, you do not want time tables and you run away form the negotiating table at every opportunity. We support BBF with political equality, do you?

Do you support BBF with political equality as defined by the UN? Because that's the complete sentence you should've said. That's what's been proposed to you,

We do and even said YES to a UN brokered deal the one you said no to remember, now answer the question do you support BBF with political equality and why are you avoiding the question?

[Viewpoint]

There is NO RIGHT AT ALL for Turkey from her status as guarantor. A guarantor is not a co-owner, and if it is then Greece has a share, which would make things interesting for us all. Turkey relinquished her guarantor status from the moment she ceased to recognise the RoC anyway.

Guaranteeing independence means reinforcing the rights of Cyprus to her natural resources, not challenging them.

As for the TCs rights, they depend on whether they want Taksim-Enosis with another power or if they still want one unitary Cypriot state. Till then their rights are suspended. This is pretty much the attitude of the international community who were convinced all these years by the TC demands for separation and are now totally confused about joint ownership of resources clearly in the south.

It was our mistake not to give you Taksim to the hilt in 1974. And be rid of this malingering misery of a "special needs" community moaning and groaning about everything while refusing to contribute the slightest in any meaningful way.

You are one confused bugger, it was the mess up until 1974 that gave Turkey the right to intervene and find a solution to the mishandindling of the "RoC" by the GCs that only worked for GCs and discriminated against TCs trying its hardest to take away their rights as per agreements signed by the GCs. So Turkeys presence here remains in your hands, you will not agree to any solution put before you, you do not want time tables and you run away form the negotiating table at every opportunity. We support BBF with political equality, do you?

No you do not support BBF with political equality as defined by the UN.

Why don't you be honest and tell us about the "BBF" you support! Why don't you be honest and just admit that you believe in a 2 State Solution, recognition of this State and an agreement for a union into a loose Confederation?

Why don't you be honest and admit that it was your side that has reneged on the Joint Communique?

The TCs have become such Boutanes it's not funny anymore.

Hello earth to empty head, who has deserted the negotiating table, now tell us all if you support BBF with political equality?

[Viewpoint]

We are fast approaching the point when Taksim will become the rallying cry for the GCs and Turkey will be pushing maniacally for a unitary state. Only in this case we have the upper hand, we can legalise and enforce Taksim and give them their "recognition" and be rid of their special needs community,

The Turks will soon realise that they have no stick in this case, and they will resort to the carrot. The interests involved in the gas and oil exploitation are stronger at every level and they are not impressed by the Gullible corvette floating around the platforms. I am guessing there will be some dramatic "goodwill gesture" to influence GC and Greek public opinion. That is when we will have to be extra careful. Turks are bazaar oriented, they do not have any conception of magnanimity or nobility, they make no gifts. There is always a price to pay.

Very good post, but the GCs do not have the nerve or capacity necessary to make such an impressive move.

[Paphitis]

There is NO RIGHT AT ALL for Turkey from her status as guarantor. A guarantor is not a co-owner, and if it is then Greece has a share, which would make things interesting for us all. Turkey relinquished her guarantor status from the moment she ceased to recognise the RoC anyway.

Guaranteeing independence means reinforcing the rights of Cyprus to her natural resources, not challenging them.

As for the TCs rights, they depend on whether they want Taksim-Enosis with another power or if they still want one unitary Cypriot state. Till then their rights are suspended. This is pretty much the attitude of the international community who were convinced all these years by the TC demands for separation and are now totally confused about joint ownership of resources clearly in the south.

It was our mistake not to give you Taksim to the hilt in 1974. And be rid of this malingering misery of a "special needs" community moaning and groaning about everything while refusing to contribute the slightest in any meaningful way.

You are one confused bugger, it was the mess up until 1974 that gave Turkey the right to intervene and find a solution to the mishandindling of the "RoC" by the GCs that only worked for GCs and discriminated against TCs trying its hardest to take away their rights as per agreements signed by the GCs. So Turkeys presence here remains in your hands, you will not agree to any solution put before you, you do not want time tables and you run away form the negotiating table at every opportunity. We support BBF with political equality, do you?

No you do not support BBF with political equality as defined by the UN.

Why don't you be honest and tell us about the "BBF" you support! Why don't you be honest and just admit that you believe in a 2 State Solution, recognition of this State and an agreement for a union into a loose Confederation?

Why don't you be honest and admit that it was your side that has reneged on the Joint Communique?

The TCs have become such Boutanes it's not funny anymore.

Hello earth to empty head, who has deserted the negotiating table, now tell us all if you support BBF with political equality?

Yes I support the negotiations.

Now earth to empty head, who has sent warships to the RoC EEZ and do you think anyone is going to blame the President from leaving the negotiations due to this provocation?

Earth to empty head? Come in idiot!

[Viewpoint]

Hello earth to havent got a clue, the ships are just a reminder that we are watching you closely and that you cannot take away our rights as long you claim we are one country, declare the TRNC independent and then we cannot claim a penny over this find, ask Nikitas who is more on the mark.

[Paphitis]

Hello earth to havent got a clue, the ships are just a reminder that we are watching you closely and that you cannot take away our rights as long you claim we are one country, declare the TRNC independent and then we cannot claim a penny over this find, ask Nikitas who is more on the mark.

Hello earth to f@#king idiot, the ships are a provocation and that is why we will not negotiate whilst you play with your Gunboats in our backyard!

Sorry, you can dream on about us signing anything away. Not in your lifetime bitch!