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Re: Arms Export Control Act - US State Department

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:53 am

Paphitis wrote:Looks like Get Real has avoided this thread and been smart for a change because it was starting to get very embarrassing for him. :)

He asked for it and he receiveth a good spanking.

Only a constipated 3-legged koala would assume that the US government has legislation that forbids (wait for it…) the US government from gifting military hardware to foreign entities… something they’ve been doing very openly for almost a century! :roll:

Go to sleep Psoritis, for all you’ve figured out on this planet… :lol:
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Re: Arms Export Control Act - US State Department

Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:57 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Looks like Get Real has avoided this thread and been smart for a change because it was starting to get very embarrassing for him. :)

He asked for it and he receiveth a good spanking.

Only a constipated 3-legged koala would assume that the US government has legislation that forbids (wait for it…) the US government from gifting military hardware to foreign entities… something they’ve been doing very openly for almost a century! :roll:

Go to sleep Psoritis, for all you’ve figured out on this planet… :lol:


Yep right! Whatever you say!

I provide you with official documentation and you know it's right because the RoC caught even buy a bibi gun.

Not only this, but the US Congress had stopped a number of US Arms deals to Turkey because of the fact that it could not verify whether those arms will be stationed in Cyprus which is a contravention of the MEU Criteria which forbids Turkey from using US made Arms against another country like the RoC.

I know they used US arms in 1974, but that resulted in the cancellation of US Arms sales for a number of years after that so there are consequences and the RoC, Greece and Turkey know full well what these consequences are. There are strict conditions on arms sales to other countries which state that US Arms are not to be used other than for a Defensive purpose, can't be used against unarmed civilians, and the sale and proliferation of these weapons to non friendly states and Militias of any kind is strictly forbidden. The US or Australia are not going to have another Iran/Contra and in both countries, there is a Federal Legislature which can prosecute and launch scathing inquiries against the Government and such inquiries as you fully know are capable of bringing down an entire US Administration or an entire Australian Government because it is a scandal which the US or Australian People will NOT tolerate or accept from their countries.

There are LAWS in these countries and these LAWS are followed to the letter!

Now bugger off!
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Re: Arms Export Control Act - US State Department

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:25 pm

Paphitis wrote:Not only this, but the US Congress had stopped a number of US Arms deals to Turkey...

COMPANY LAW has NOTHING to do with what a government can do!

US companies must get the approval of the US government to sell military hardware to others, but if and when the GOVERNMENT itself decides to “donate” or “aid” or “gift” or “bribe”, who is going to bloody stop them fool?

How old are you anyway? :lol:
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Re: Arms Export Control Act - US State Department

Postby kurupetos » Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:34 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Looks like Get Real has avoided this thread and been smart for a change because it was starting to get very embarrassing for him. :)

He asked for it and he receiveth a good spanking.

Only a constipated 3-legged koala would assume that the US government has legislation that forbids (wait for it…) the US government from gifting military hardware to foreign entities… something they’ve been doing very openly for almost a century! :roll:

Go to sleep Psoritis, for all you’ve figured out on this planet… :lol:

WTF? :lol:
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Re: Arms Export Control Act - US State Department

Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:22 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Not only this, but the US Congress had stopped a number of US Arms deals to Turkey...

COMPANY LAW has NOTHING to do with what a government can do!

US companies must get the approval of the US government to sell military hardware to others, but if and when the GOVERNMENT itself decides to “donate” or “aid” or “gift” or “bribe”, who is going to bloody stop them fool?

How old are you anyway? :lol:


No you are wrong.

All arms dealers, including Boeing, come under US Arms Control and they in order to sell their technologies, need the approval of Congress and no Arms deal can come to pass if it does not meet the Arms Control Act.

If you look through the link I provided you will see that the US Government can't donate a bi I gun if it contravenes the Act. The US did that once in Nicaragua which exposed the Feds to the Scandal of the Century!

The US and Australia are not Greece or Cyprus - full of Ottoman Ideology.

There is no such thing as "under the table" or fakelaki re Koumbare when it comes to weapons.
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Re: Arms Export Control Act - US State Department

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:53 pm

Paphitis wrote:All arms dealers, including Boeing, come under US Arms Control and they in order to sell their technologies, need the approval of Congress and no Arms deal can come to pass if it does not meet the Arms Control Act.

:? Boeing and arms dealers are REGISTERED COMPANIES you fucking little monkey! :lol:

There’s nothing that can stop ANY government from purchasing military hardware from companies, and then donating it to another party if they so desire so get your facts right bozo! :roll:
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Re: Arms Export Control Act - US State Department

Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:11 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:All arms dealers, including Boeing, come under US Arms Control and they in order to sell their technologies, need the approval of Congress and no Arms deal can come to pass if it does not meet the Arms Control Act.

:? Boeing and arms dealers are REGISTERED COMPANIES you fucking little monkey! :lol:

There’s nothing that can stop ANY government from purchasing military hardware from companies, and then donating it to another party if they so desire so get your facts right bozo! :roll:


They are registered companies, are regulated under The Arms Export Control Act as is the Government which can't purchase arms from Boeing, Grumman or Lockheed and then "gift" them. By gift you actually mean aid and aid only goes to sovereign countries like Iraq which are also deemed friendly.

The Peshmerga for instance, which have a Kurdish Autonomous Area but are not sovereign as they are within the sovereign borders of Iraq, are NOT allowed to buy western arms, will not be given them as gifts or aid.

Hence why even our most trusted ally, the Kurds of Northern Iraq (Peshmerga) can not receive Australian or US arms because Australia or the US do not have official diplomatic ties and because of a range of other MEU factors and criteria.

We would love to arm them to the teeth right now, and we will do just that, but with Russian Technology sourced from other countries. The US will actually lead them as their Boots on the Ground so we want to arm them well. The Iraqi Security Forces are our other boots and will lead the ground offensive and they will have Western Weapons and lots of them.

Naturally, there is no provision for the supply of arms from Australia or US to militias like Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, DESH or ISIL. If the Government "gifted" so much as a handgun, and it was proven, then you will witness a huge bloodletting that will rival Watergate, and Iran/Contra. Can you imagine if this happened and then you have our aircraft and potentially our troops on the ground? It will be the trial of the century.

Things like this don't happen of course because these Governments calculate their decisions, are scrutinized, and there is nowhere you can hide. All arms deals and aid must be approved by Congress or Parliament.
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Re: Arms Export Control Act - US State Department

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:41 pm

Paphitis wrote:We would love to arm them to the teeth right now, and we will do just that, but with Russian Technology sourced from other countries. The US will actually lead them as their Boots on the Ground so we want to arm them well.

You’re an incorrigible idiot and your daft use of “we” and “our” all the time in nauseating! :lol:
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Re: Arms Export Control Act - US State Department

Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:49 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:We would love to arm them to the teeth right now, and we will do just that, but with Russian Technology sourced from other countries. The US will actually lead them as their Boots on the Ground so we want to arm them well.

You’re an incorrigible idiot and your daft use of “we” and “our” all the time in nauseating! :lol:


Look you idiot!

Why don't you ask the US to gift you a JD as your fakelaki to shut the fuck up. Maybe, Ottoman ways are necessary to silence an Ottoman Gypsy.
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Re: Arms Export Control Act - US State Department

Postby kurupetos » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:17 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:We would love to arm them to the teeth right now, and we will do just that, but with Russian Technology sourced from other countries. The US will actually lead them as their Boots on the Ground so we want to arm them well.

You’re an incorrigible idiot and your daft use of “we” and “our” all the time in nauseating! :lol:


Look you idiot!

Why don't you ask the US to gift you a JD as your fakelaki to shut the fuck up. Maybe, Ottoman ways are necessary to silence an Ottoman Gypsy.

You cannot bribe GR! with money. Try something different... :mrgreen:
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