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[miltiades]

For your information EOKA was a noble freedom organization that fought for the right...

I'm proud of the small part that I played in the struggle.

And not long after that you rushed off to London to seek your fortunes instead of Athens!



Hardly a day goes by without reminding me why I have no respect for you Milti...

I have stated on numerous occasions that I'm a Cypriot and that Greece is a nation closely connected to the GCs just as much as Turkey is to the TCs . In 1955 and beyond there was only one focus point for the majority of the Cypriot people , abundantly understandable and justifiable given the history of Cyprus and the historical connections with Greece.
I have also stated that in my opinion the struggle was perfectly justified although the ultimate goal of ENOSIS was wrong.
Those of us who lived through the struggle years recall the fervour and determination as well as enthusiasm at the struggle against the imperialist British.
Had the struggle continued I would have joined my older brother as an active member of EOKA, at the commencement in 1955 I was 9 years old, I joined ANE at the age of 12 .
Thousands of Cypriots emigrated to the UK in search of a better life, an indication that no hatred or animosity was directed at the British people
For you to suggest that we should have gone to Greece is indicative of your ignorance and the psychotic tendencies that
you nurture. Much can be said with hindsight, the fact however is that we had an undeniable right to demand freedom and the right to determine our own destination.ENOSIS was wrong in my opinion now, this does not in any way diminish the right of the majority to decide their own destiny.

[Get Real!]

At the very least 18% of Cyprus’ population were TCs that did NOT approve of gifting Cyprus to Greece and I won’t even mention those Armenians, Maronites, and GCs that DID NOT approve of it either and were completely ignored!

The Scots would be pretty pleased with their outcome if only 18% said "No".

Democracy was denied Cyprus and arguing for going against what 80% wanted is part of the problem of foreign influence.

Whoever said you can pick up the number “80” and use it as part of your arguments here just because I pointed out that “AT THE VERY LEAST 18% were TCs”?

Does that give you the green light to assume you have “secured” an 80% majority?

Are you for real?

And then that IDIOTIC Sotos had a premature ejaculation that you had "secured" 80% for him!

Well said. And the Scottish people can be united with the English even if 50%+1 vote wants this union ... let alone the 80%, even though the Scottish are a separate nation and ethnic group, while
the native Cypriots are the same ethnic group as all other Greeks on mainland Greece and all other Greek islands.

Are you for real Sotos?

[Get Real!]

It seems a recurring theme for Sotos to get his knickers in a twist…

If those Colonialists can not respect our right as the native Cypriot people to take democratic choices for our own island...

But you've gone out of your way to convince everyone on the planet that your ancestors are NOT native Cypriots but some weird "Greek guys" that came from afar and now you claim nativity?

[GreekIslandGirl]

Does that give you the green light to assume you have “secured” an 80% majority?

You're rather good at playing stupid when you want.

The 80% was a rounded down figure (nearer 84% in those days) of GCs that YOU were leaving out of consideration when you generously rounded up to 18% for TCs and then added some oblique references to yet others (people such as Armenians for example - who btw love Greece more than you do and whose home country only keeps an Embassy in Athens which they consider doubly satisfies the requirements for Cyprus too - that speaks volumes).

Furthermore, to suggest that all TCs would be against union with Greece (which would have opened up more possibilities for them, such as wider access to education and jobs at the time, is another of your biased suppositions and an insult to the memory of those several hundred TC representative members who actually voted YES for union with Greece in the polled figures ),

[miltiades]

"You're rather good at playing stupid when you want"
Dreadfully WRONG ! He is STUPID !
The entire world condemns the attrocities commited by the savages , yet this prick fully supports such acts. When are you lot going to realize that the man is a PSYCHO !

[Sotos]

It seems that all EOKA was fighting for (knowingly or unknowingly) was to swap foreign hands of Cyprus, and that unfortunately makes it a dishonorable cause.

It is admirable to fight so as to liberate one’s self/country from colonialism, but if the ulterior motive is to pass the slavery onto another “master” then the motive takes on a double evil form.

We are Greek, so how can being free equal citizens of a Greek state, like it is the case with all other Greek islands, be compared with being colonial subjects of a foreign empire? As always you are talking nonsense. If YOU are not Greek... because you have be brought up abroad and you even have English as your main language, then realize you are an ANOMALY, and NOT representative in any way of the vast majority of Cypriots.

You are NOT Greek but a victim of Cyprus’ sabotaged education system,

…but even if you were Greek, ALL healthy-minded human beings would’ve JUMPED at the idea of independence and forgotten about Greece… so that alone PROVES that it was NOT a healthy momentum but one of slavery to Greece as orchestrated by the Greek government.

I wasn't born yesterday Sotos...

NB: There exists an “Independent Crete” movement going on as we speak for crying out loud and THEY are REAL Greeks!

We are as Greek as it gets, just like Athenians or Cretans. You as a non Greek (i.e. foreigner) can say whatever bullshit you want, but we real Cypriots don't give a fuck Maybe you should go back to England, Australia or whatever other country you grew up in, since it is obvious that you are a misfit in Cyprus.

[Sotos]

It seems a recurring theme for Sotos to get his knickers in a twist…

If those Colonialists can not respect our right as the native Cypriot people to take democratic choices for our own island...

But you've gone out of your way to convince everyone on the planet that your ancestors are NOT native Cypriots but some weird "Greek guys" that came from afar and now you claim nativity?

First of all everybody came to Cyprus from somewhere else. Humans did not evolve in Cyprus. Greek has been the main language and culture of Cyprus for more than 3000 years and that makes Greeks 100% native to Cyprus. In comparison the English have 1500 of history in Britain and still you wouldn't say that they are non native to Britain. Secondly, the Greeks were one of the first civilizations... before that we are talking about prehistoric times, and prehistoric people existed EVERYWHERE and they didn't form nations or ethnic groups since such things did not exist back then.

[Get Real!]

Does that give you the green light to assume you have “secured” an 80% majority?

You're rather good at playing stupid when you want.

The 80% was a rounded down figure (nearer 84% in those days) of GCs that YOU were leaving out of consideration when you generously rounded up to 18% for TCs and then added some oblique references to yet others (people such as Armenians for example - who btw love Greece more than you do and whose home country only keeps an Embassy in Athens which they consider doubly satisfies the requirements for Cyprus too - that speaks volumes).

Furthermore, to suggest that all TCs would be against union with Greece (which would have opened up more possibilities for them, such as wider access to education and jobs at the time, is another of your biased suppositions and an insult to the memory of those several hundred TC representative members who actually voted YES for union with Greece in the polled figures ),

Where is your CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that substantiates ANY number let alone 80%?

Up Jack’s arse picking the gooseberries that’s where!

In future don’t make things up as you go along or post your fantasies.

[Get Real!]

We are as Greek as it gets, just like Athenians or Cretans. You as a non Greek (i.e. foreigner) can say whatever bullshit you want, but we real Cypriots don't give a fuck Maybe you should go back to England, Australia or whatever other country you grew up in, since it is obvious that you are a misfit in Cyprus.

Err, but you don’t even have a Greek passport!

How did you become "Greek" through telepathy?

[Get Real!]

It seems a recurring theme for Sotos to get his knickers in a twist…

If those Colonialists can not respect our right as the native Cypriot people to take democratic choices for our own island...

But you've gone out of your way to convince everyone on the planet that your ancestors are NOT native Cypriots but some weird "Greek guys" that came from afar and now you claim nativity?

First of all everybody came to Cyprus from somewhere else. Humans did not evolve in Cyprus. Greek has been the main language and culture of Cyprus for more than 3000 years and that makes Greeks 100% native to Cyprus. In comparison the English have 1500 of history in Britain and still you wouldn't say that they are non native to Britain. Secondly, the Greeks were one of the first civilizations... before that we are talking about prehistoric times, and prehistoric people existed EVERYWHERE and they didn't form nations or ethnic groups since such things did not exist back then.

What credible evidence do you have that a people that did not exist (Greeks) came here 3000 years ago?

And furthermore, what makes you think that 3000 years ago was "first contact with a land" so as to claim the exclusive title "native" or "indigenous" if you prefer?

And how do your Greek fantasies fit in with scientific FACTS?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alashiya