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[Get Real!]

The majority asked for union with Greece, which was the obvious demand, as Cypriots were/are Greeks.

And that's why you fucked up and lost 37% of your territory...

1. You ASSUMED that the "majority" wanted to gift this country away.
2. You misunderstood or misconstrued what "self determination" meant.
3. You ASSUMED that you were Greeks and not Cypriots.

And the root of all these problems was Greece's evil self-serving interferences.

Done and dusted… lesson not learned!

[Get Real!]

At the very least 18% of Cyprus’ population were TCs that did NOT approve of gifting Cyprus to Greece and I won’t even mention those Armenians, Maronites, and GCs that DID NOT approve of it either and were completely ignored!

So it’s obvious that some of you MISUNDERSTOOD or IGNORED what the COMBINED CYPRUS wanted and thus you failed miserably!

But of course, Greece couldn’t care less whether it was the whole of Cyprus or a portion of Cyprus that she could grab as a base, and that’s why she encouraged your foolish and uneducated forefathers to keep going all the way down the cliff to your deaths!

Let's be honest with ourselves...

[Get Real!]

Granted that your forefathers were uneducated peasants that could be easily mislead and molded into anything outside powers wanted,

...but the question that begs to be answered in 2014 and with all that hindsight is…

How come some of you are still so stupid?

[Lordo]

if the gc leadership intentions were enosis with greece why did they not use the word enosis and instead disguised it as self determination. who were they afraid of.

[GreekIslandGirl]

At the very least 18% of Cyprus’ population were TCs that did NOT approve of gifting Cyprus to Greece and I won’t even mention those Armenians, Maronites, and GCs that DID NOT approve of it either and were completely ignored!

The Scots would be pretty pleased with their outcome if only 18% said "No".

Democracy was denied Cyprus and arguing for going against what 80% wanted is part of the problem of foreign influence.

[Sotos]

I have not read the book but I know the one sided views of the late David Carter.
For your information EOKA was a noble freedom organization that fought for the right of the overwhelming number of Cypriots to determine their own destiny, a principle that all nations deserve. The British imperialists of the time however did not consider us worthy of such a right and called us ... terrorists, just as they called peoples the world over who fought for independence. Bearing in mind that 30.000 Cypriots fought alongside the British fighting the Nazis, it was an absolute travesty of justice to deny us the right to self determination.
I'm proud of the small part that I played in the struggle .

Well said! Cyprus belongs to its people, not to any foreign occupiers and their recently introduced colonists. If those Colonialists can not respect our right as the native Cypriot people to take democratic choices for our own island then we have every right to fight for what is rightfully ours. You are also right about WWII... the British lied to us and once the war was over they had no problem to continue to directly and indirectly support oppression, ethnic cleansing and genocides against other nations.

[Sotos]

At the very least 18% of Cyprus’ population were TCs that did NOT approve of gifting Cyprus to Greece and I won’t even mention those Armenians, Maronites, and GCs that DID NOT approve of it either and were completely ignored!

The Scots would be pretty pleased with their outcome if only 18% said "No".

Democracy was denied Cyprus and arguing for going against what 80% wanted is part of the problem of foreign influence.

Well said. And the Scottish people can be united with the English even if 50%+1 vote wants this union ... let alone the 80%, even though the Scottish are a separate nation and ethnic group, while the native Cypriots are the same ethnic group as all other Greeks on mainland Greece and all other Greek islands.

[Get Real!]

It seems that all EOKA was fighting for (knowingly or unknowingly) was to swap foreign hands of Cyprus, and that unfortunately makes it a dishonorable cause.

It is admirable to fight so as to liberate one’s self/country from colonialism, but if the ulterior motive is to pass the slavery onto another “master” then the motive takes on a double evil form.

[Sotos]

It seems that all EOKA was fighting for (knowingly or unknowingly) was to swap foreign hands of Cyprus, and that unfortunately makes it a dishonorable cause.

It is admirable to fight so as to liberate one’s self/country from colonialism, but if the ulterior motive is to pass the slavery onto another “master” then the motive takes on a double evil form.

We are Greek, so how can being free equal citizens of a Greek state, like it is the case with all other Greek islands, be compared with being colonial subjects of a foreign empire? As always you are talking nonsense. If YOU are not Greek... because you have be brought up abroad and you even have English as your main language, then realize you are an ANOMALY, and NOT representative in any way of the vast majority of Cypriots.

[Get Real!]

It seems that all EOKA was fighting for (knowingly or unknowingly) was to swap foreign hands of Cyprus, and that unfortunately makes it a dishonorable cause.

It is admirable to fight so as to liberate one’s self/country from colonialism, but if the ulterior motive is to pass the slavery onto another “master” then the motive takes on a double evil form.

We are Greek, so how can being free equal citizens of a Greek state, like it is the case with all other Greek islands, be compared with being colonial subjects of a foreign empire? As always you are talking nonsense. If YOU are not Greek... because you have be brought up abroad and you even have English as your main language, then realize you are an ANOMALY, and NOT representative in any way of the vast majority of Cypriots.

You are NOT Greek but a victim of Cyprus’ sabotaged education system,

…but even if you were Greek, ALL healthy-minded human beings would’ve JUMPED at the idea of independence and forgotten about Greece… so that alone PROVES that it was NOT a healthy momentum but one of slavery to Greece as orchestrated by the Greek government.

I wasn't born yesterday Sotos...

NB: There exists an “Independent Crete” movement going on as we speak for crying out loud and THEY are REAL Greeks!