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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Garavnoss » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:44 pm

I think it's about time somebody gave IS a bit of credit for their courage, after all, they are facing overwhelming odds and not making too bad a job of antagonizing the mighty forces arrayed against them.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Maximus » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:00 pm

Garavnoss wrote:I think it's about time somebody gave IS a bit of credit for their courage, after all, they are facing overwhelming odds and not making too bad a job of antagonizing the mighty forces arrayed against them.


I cant give any credit to these savages because they have a backward ideology, their trying to steal land that does not belong to them and are committing acts of barbarism.

Their too far from being credible to give them any credit.

Are you for real?
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby bill cobbett » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:19 pm

Maximus wrote:A convoy of Turkish tanks invaded Syria late last night to evacuate a Turkish tomb about 40km from the border because one of their soldiers guarding it died. No details about his death have been given.

There has been no reports of engagement with ISIS fighters.

The operation has been said to be "classified".

The reaction of Damascus has been harsh, the Syrian government said it holds Turkey responsible for “repercussions of this aggression.”


The Kemalist Opposition have seen this withdrawal as an abandonment of Tergish Soil.

This is a bit from Harriet...

"... “The ones who ordered the flight from Süleyman Şah will also flee this country tomorrow, but I will ask for payback for all the embarrassments you have caused Turkey,” main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) chair Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu said in a post on his Twitter account.

“The government that bowed before terrorists and sold the homeland’s soil has showed that its first job will be running away from other threats that will be faced tomorrow,” he said. “Presenting the destruction of your own police station, the withdrawal of your soldiers and leaving you land as a ‘success’ is the proof of a sham fight,” he also tweeted.

Yusuf Halaçoğlu of the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP), meanwhile, dubbed the operation “treason.” “This is a total treason. You leave your homeland to ISIL and you brag about ‘saving the television inside,’” the deputy parliamentary group leader of the MHP told daily Hürriyet on Feb. 22.

“How could you abandon your own land? That enclave is your soil according to international terms. It is no different than Hatay, Hakkari or Ankara,” he said. ..."


Presumably these Nationalist Nutters think that Occupied Kyrenia falls in to the same category and is similarly Tergiyish soil... !!!
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Garavnoss » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:30 pm

Maximus wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:I think it's about time somebody gave IS a bit of credit for their courage, after all, they are facing overwhelming odds and not making too bad a job of antagonizing the mighty forces arrayed against them.


I cant give any credit to these savages because they have a backward ideology, their trying to steal land that does not belong to them and are committing acts of barbarism.

Their too far from being credible to give them any credit.

Are you for real?


They are TRYING to steal land that does not belong to them and committing barbaric acts, therefore they deserve no credit ?.

How does that equate with the barbarism of the Israeli that HAS stolen land that does not belong to them yet receives credit ?.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Maximus » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:44 pm

Garavnoss wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:I think it's about time somebody gave IS a bit of credit for their courage, after all, they are facing overwhelming odds and not making too bad a job of antagonizing the mighty forces arrayed against them.


I cant give any credit to these savages because they have a backward ideology, their trying to steal land that does not belong to them and are committing acts of barbarism.

Their too far from being credible to give them any credit.

Are you for real?


They are TRYING to steal land that does not belong to them and committing barbaric acts, therefore they deserve no credit ?.

How does that equate with the barbarism of the Israeli that HAS stolen land that does not belong to them yet receives credit ?.


Regarding your first question, they do not deserve any credit.

regarding your second. It does not equate. I do not and did not give Israel any credit for stealing land.

What has this got to do with your previous comment?
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Garavnoss » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:11 pm

Maximus wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:I think it's about time somebody gave IS a bit of credit for their courage, after all, they are facing overwhelming odds and not making too bad a job of antagonizing the mighty forces arrayed against them.


I cant give any credit to these savages because they have a backward ideology, their trying to steal land that does not belong to them and are committing acts of barbarism.

Their too far from being credible to give them any credit.

Are you for real?


They are TRYING to steal land that does not belong to them and committing barbaric acts, therefore they deserve no credit ?.

How does that equate with the barbarism of the Israeli that HAS stolen land that does not belong to them yet receives credit ?.


Regarding your first question, they do not deserve any credit.

regarding your second. It does not equate. I do not and did not give Israel any credit for stealing land.

What has this got to do with your previous comment?


O.K. I readily accept your point in regard to my second comment.

My first comments are self explanatory, it is quite clear that IS faces enormously superior forces (whatever their objectives are) and it seems unreasonable to persistently refer to them as cowards and barbarians when the forces arrayed against them are as deserving of the same criticisms as they are.

No need to drag up past (or current incidents) in order to highlight the "Courage" reference.

Any enemy should be regarded as a worthy one for a simple reason, "They may Win" and if they did, it would not bode well for the mighty forces of the West if they had to admit defeat to a bunch of "Cowardly Rabble" (or some such.

As to IS, it must take courage to face down such mighty forces as they DO face, these people are not afraid of death, they are ready to attack heavily guarded military targets and believe they have a just cause in doing so.

They are said to be goading the forces of the West (by many means) with a view to encourage a "Boots on the Ground" confrontation it would appear that the West has not got the stomach for such battle, they would rather resort to the use their "High Tech" weapons and "Fly Over" bombing campaigns in order to degrade IS.

Unfortunately, such actions are more worthy of the term "Coward" and the ONLY degrading that is taking place is in the character of those who will not venture to engage in a fair contest......................we all know who.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:17 pm

Garavnoss wrote:I think it's about time somebody gave IS a bit of credit for their courage, after all, they are facing overwhelming odds and not making too bad a job of antagonizing the mighty forces arrayed against them.

What courage you fucking psycho, slitting the throats of innocent people and using them as football or sticking decapitated heads n poles.
You are a disgusting idiot , you make me sick, fuck off to Syria you fucking pervert, go join the courageous savages.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Garavnoss » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:22 pm

miltiades wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:I think it's about time somebody gave IS a bit of credit for their courage, after all, they are facing overwhelming odds and not making too bad a job of antagonizing the mighty forces arrayed against them.

What courage you fucking psycho, slitting the throats of innocent people and using them as football or sticking decapitated heads n poles.
You are a disgusting idiot , you make me sick, fuck off to Syria you fucking pervert, go join the courageous savages.




Funny person. :roll:
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:24 pm

Garavnoss wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:I think it's about time somebody gave IS a bit of credit for their courage, after all, they are facing overwhelming odds and not making too bad a job of antagonizing the mighty forces arrayed against them.

What courage you fucking psycho, slitting the throats of innocent people and using them as football or sticking decapitated heads n poles.
You are a disgusting idiot , you make me sick, fuck off to Syria you fucking pervert, go join the courageous savages.




Funny person. :roll:

Do not tolerate stupid psychos, so fuck off
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Garavnoss » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:33 pm

miltiades wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:I think it's about time somebody gave IS a bit of credit for their courage, after all, they are facing overwhelming odds and not making too bad a job of antagonizing the mighty forces arrayed against them.

What courage you fucking psycho, slitting the throats of innocent people and using them as football or sticking decapitated heads n poles.
You are a disgusting idiot , you make me sick, fuck off to Syria you fucking pervert, go join the courageous savages.




Funny person. :roll:

Do not tolerate stupid psychos, so fuck off




"Tut Tut", what more can one think ?. :roll:
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