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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby miltiades » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:52 pm

Maximus wrote:
Lordo wrote:you read a lot about is and what they do but never about what american backed government of iraq does.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/02/19/irans-shiite-militias-are-running-amok-in-iraq/


Lord of the Jihadists, your brothers (IS) are killing and savagely murdering your brothers in Syria and committing other crimes against humanity.

The Erdogan regime is helping them kill your brothers in Syria and aiding and abetting them to commit crimes against humanity.

Do you have anything to say about that?

Allow me to answer on behalf of His Lorjihadist !!!
The.... Yanks are to blame for all the cutthroat murders!!! :lol: :lol:
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby B25 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:03 pm

Just for Lordo.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:22 pm

B25 wrote:Just for Lordo.


I think he just creamed his pants and needs to get changed! :?
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby miltiades » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:35 pm

In the meantime here are some more savage acts by the ....Americans !!!
2015.02.20 (al-Qubah, Libya) - Fifty people are blown to bits by three Islamic State suicide car bombs.
2015.02.20 (Mogadishu, Somalia) - A Shahid suicide bomber exterminates twenty 'apostates' at a luxury hotel.
2015.02.19 (Chibok, Nigeria) - At least thirty are left dead when Boko Haram gunmen open up randomly on villagers.
2015.02.19 (Tourba Guida, Niger) - Three people are murdered by a Boko Haram attack on a village.
2015.02.18 (Islamabad, Pakistan) - A Jundullah suicide bomber detonates outside a Shiite mosque, killing four innocents.
2015.02.18 (Samarrah, Iraq) - Six Iraqis are sent to Allah by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Lordo » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:09 pm

just in case you missed this.

It took the fall of Iraq’s second-largest city, Mosul, for Western elites to finally begin to understand what many of us saw firsthand in the years since 2003:
The Iraqi government is hopelessly sectarian, corrupt, and generally unfit to govern what could be one of the world’s most prosperous nations.Washington’s response to the Islamic State’s (IS) advance, however, has been disgraceful: The United States is now acting as the air force, the armory, and the diplomatic cover for Iraqi militias that are committing some of the worst human rights abuses on the planet. These are “allies” that are actually beholden to our strategic foe, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and which often resort to the same vile tactics as the Islamic State itself.

Perhaps the most vivid and disturbing evidence that the Iraqi government simply does not share America’s core values emerged on Feb. 6. In a grainy video posted on YouTube, a three-minute horror show plays out on the front lines somewhere in Iraq. Iraqi military officers and presumably Shiite militiamen — dressed in black, skull-adorned “Sons of Anarchy” shirts — crowd an ambulance emblazoned with the Iraqi state seal. Inside, a blindfolded and hog-tied man in military fatigues pleads for mercy as the Iraqi vigilantes beat him over the head, taunting him with expletives.
“We will f— your sisters,” they shout.
“No, God,” the prisoner weeps.
One of the vigilantes picks up a metal toolbox and slams it down on the crying man, as others enter the ambulance to beat and kick the helpless prisoner. A minute into the video, the man is dragged out of the ambulance and onto the ground, still blindfolded, arms bound behind his back. A dozen fighters surround him and begin kicking him until he lies motionless, blood dripping from his head. With some yelling “enough,” a man in camouflaged trousers walks up to the prisoner and beats him over the head repeatedly with a sandal, a gesture of monumental insult. Another man, also in camouflaged trousers, leaps up twice and lands with his full weight on the detainee’s skull. A third man, in full military uniform, kicks and punches the haemorrhaging man, whose blood spills across the sand below.
In the final horrific minute, the vigilantes carry the man a few feet away and drop him to the ground. Several men armed with U.S.-supplied M4 rifles then empty several magazines — perhaps more than 100 rounds — into the man.


america go home.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:31 pm

Lordo wrote:just in case you missed this.

It took the fall of Iraq’s second-largest city, Mosul, for Western elites to finally begin to understand what many of us saw firsthand in the years since 2003:
The Iraqi government is hopelessly sectarian, corrupt, and generally unfit to govern what could be one of the world’s most prosperous nations.Washington’s response to the Islamic State’s (IS) advance, however, has been disgraceful: The United States is now acting as the air force, the armory, and the diplomatic cover for Iraqi militias that are committing some of the worst human rights abuses on the planet. These are “allies” that are actually beholden to our strategic foe, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and which often resort to the same vile tactics as the Islamic State itself.

Perhaps the most vivid and disturbing evidence that the Iraqi government simply does not share America’s core values emerged on Feb. 6. In a grainy video posted on YouTube, a three-minute horror show plays out on the front lines somewhere in Iraq. Iraqi military officers and presumably Shiite militiamen — dressed in black, skull-adorned “Sons of Anarchy” shirts — crowd an ambulance emblazoned with the Iraqi state seal. Inside, a blindfolded and hog-tied man in military fatigues pleads for mercy as the Iraqi vigilantes beat him over the head, taunting him with expletives.
“We will f— your sisters,” they shout.
“No, God,” the prisoner weeps.
One of the vigilantes picks up a metal toolbox and slams it down on the crying man, as others enter the ambulance to beat and kick the helpless prisoner. A minute into the video, the man is dragged out of the ambulance and onto the ground, still blindfolded, arms bound behind his back. A dozen fighters surround him and begin kicking him until he lies motionless, blood dripping from his head. With some yelling “enough,” a man in camouflaged trousers walks up to the prisoner and beats him over the head repeatedly with a sandal, a gesture of monumental insult. Another man, also in camouflaged trousers, leaps up twice and lands with his full weight on the detainee’s skull. A third man, in full military uniform, kicks and punches the haemorrhaging man, whose blood spills across the sand below.
In the final horrific minute, the vigilantes carry the man a few feet away and drop him to the ground. Several men armed with U.S.-supplied M4 rifles then empty several magazines — perhaps more than 100 rounds — into the man.


america go home.


What do these militias and vigilantes have to do with America?

America goes home, and thousands of innocent Iraqis are killed. No thanks. Not until DAESH are destroyed and the Iraqi Military and Peshmerga are in full control of the country. Then the coalition will go home.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Lordo » Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:22 pm

you either do not understand what you are reading or you are unable to read. how did you miss this bit.

The United States is now acting as the air force, the armory, and the diplomatic cover for Iraqi militias that are committing some of the worst human rights abuses on the planet. These are “allies” that are actually beholden to our strategic foe, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and which often resort to the same vile tactics as the Islamic State itself.

pay attention you stupid boy.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:01 pm

Lordo wrote:you either do not understand what you are reading or you are unable to read. how did you miss this bit.

The United States is now acting as the air force, the armory, and the diplomatic cover for Iraqi militias that are committing some of the worst human rights abuses on the planet. These are “allies” that are actually beholden to our strategic foe, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and which often resort to the same vile tactics as the Islamic State itself.

pay attention you stupid boy.


Now you listen here little boy! The Coalition is supporting the Iraqi Military and the Peshmerga, and no one else other than civilians such as the Turkmen, and Assisdi rebels who had their towns under siege for many days.

If and when these villagers catch a cutthroat, it is only natural for emotions to run very high but the U.S. or its allies do not condone this behaviour, but at the end of the day, it is what it is and it's easy for us to get on our high horse even though they lost family members, and had their daughters kidnapped and enslaved in bondage and brothels.

At the end of the day, there is not much we can do about it.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Lordo » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:04 pm

you obviously do not understand. here it is agin see if you understand this time. it says worst human abuses on the planet.

read it again. the original one contains a link to a video which i refuse to look at. look at it if you dare.

The United States is now acting as the air force, the armory, and the diplomatic cover for Iraqi militias that are committing some of the worst human rights abuses on the planet. These are “allies” that are actually beholden to our strategic foe, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and which often resort to the same vile tactics as the Islamic State itself.

stupid boy

same as the islamic state but worse because they started before islamic states was formed.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:18 am

...it is Iran that is supporting the Militia in Iraq. Whether IS, or DAESH is defeated or not, the real risk is that Iraq will be lost to Iran. While there is some unity in defining 'the enemy' among the Arab world, neither Jordan, the Saudis, or Egypt, have a specific alliance toward Iran in their efforts against the same enemy, but it is the Iranian boots so to speak, not the Iraqi Army even with the Coalition, on the ground that will win Iraq back, for Iraqis perhaps, but under what terms remains unclear.
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