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[miltiades]

the Koran is interpreted accordingly by different groups for agenda purposes...look milti there are 1.2bilion muslims as we speak...obviously not all interpret the Koran they way you prescribe...because if they did, the way you prescribed, there would have been a lot of more problems, stretching from Indonesia all the way to timbaktu...

I entirely agree, the vast majority of muslims are peaceful people, just want to get on with their lives. Islam is at the root of all that is going on right now from Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Nigeria and in most of other Islamic nations, Nigeria of course is not a majority muslim nation.

The muslim world has condemned ISIS and Al-Qaida as well as other terror groups, much more has to be done if Islam is to take its place amongst other religions who have as their main philosophy peace, love and compassion.

There are numerous aspects of this religion that are incompatible with the progress of the human race.

Sharia law is just one such issue. Fatwas issued against anyone questioning Islam is another.

I was born a Christian, I have the greatest respect for the New Testament philosophy although I do not believe in God. I criticize the Old Testament as a cruel, vindictive, and rather idiotic, should I be sentenced to death for doing so ?

Islam has a very long way to go if it is to be accepted by the rest of the non Islamic world as a genuinely peaceful, loving, forgiving religion. Right now it is not.

[Paphitis]

i am trying to understand how we got to this situation. i go back to 2003 and there was no isil isis or even alqaida in iraq. what on earth happened for them to materialise out of thin air. why was there no jihadi problem in iraq before 2003.


perhaps the old fool or the rest of the islamaphobes can enlighten this situation.

There was a little fella called Suddam Hussein, and I am sure there was no chance for an ISIL back then because that fella would have wiped them out completely. If he had biological or chemical weapons, he would use them too like he did before.

Basically, there are 2 choices for countries like Iraq and Syria:

1) have an iron fisted Totalitarian ruler (like the late Suddam Hussein) who is prepared to do anything including wipe out organizations such as ISIL or any other group that does not conform, OR

2) have a democratically elected Government which is prepared to rule for the people, by the people, and in complete transparency and fairness to all sectarian groups. If this is achieved, there is no chance that DAESH will get the required support from the Sunni Tribes.

[Lordo]

perhaps thats where miltiades gets his ideas from.

once the americans got rid of saddam what exactly did they to do allow the arabs to have democracy. did hey take out the arms saddam had. what happened to the oil in iraq as well as what hapened to the money un released once saddam was removed.

[Paphitis]

perhaps thats where miltiades gets his ideas from.

once the americans got rid of saddam what exactly did they to do allow the arabs to have democracy. did hey take out the arms saddam had. what happened to the oil in iraq as well as what hapened to the money un released once saddam was removed.

The Oil in Iraq are sovereign resources belonging to the country.

http://atlas.media.mit.edu/profile/country/irq/

The Iraqis have many contracts/licences issued to various countries.

When the US withdrew, there was no choice but to leave the country to the Iraqi People. It was always the intention to do so. The elections were held, in a fair and transparent means, but the Government did not Govern with fairness. This is not something the US can interfere with or manipulate without sanctions, which it was not prepared to impose. that is not something you would do to a country trying to get on its feet and which has transitioned to full democracy.

Another issue is the power struggle between the Sunnis and the Iranian supported SHIA Iraqi Government.

It's a combination of the above 2 issues. If the Iraqi Government governed with fairness and equality, then DAESH would be unable to gain a foothold because they would lack the support from the Sunni Tribes.

[Lordo]

bullshit and you know it. i am talking about L. Paul Bremer and before him garner. what did they do with the money and oil. did they keep a track of where the money or oil went. hell they did.

[miltiades]

bullshit and you know it. i am talking about L. Paul Bremer and before him garner. what did they do with the money and oil. did they keep a track of where the money or oil went. hell they did.

They, the Arabs and other ME oil producers, should thank Allah that the west needs oil, otherwise they would still be riding camels and sleeping in tents !!

[Lordo]

how interesting and by your reasoning the africans should also be thankful for being enslaved in america. will you read what your post old man.

[miltiades]

how interesting and by your reasoning the africans should also be thankful for being enslaved in america. will you read what your post old man.

What

What a stupid equation old man !!

[Paphitis]

bullshit and you know it. i am talking about L. Paul Bremer and before him garner. what did they do with the money and oil. did they keep a track of where the money or oil went. hell they did.

No not bullshit at all.

The only person talking bullshit is you! Even Australia's Woodside has contracts in Iraq, similar to how the roC has issued licences to Noble Energy. Even the Russians have a foothold in Iraq.

[Lordo]

bullshit and you know it. i am talking about L. Paul Bremer and before him garner. what did they do with the money and oil. did they keep a track of where the money or oil went. hell they did.

No not bullshit at all.

The only person talking bullshit is you! Even Australia's Woodside has contracts in Iraq, similar to how the roC has issued licences to Noble Energy. Even the Russians have a foothold in Iraq.

at least the comment should include one of the items mention in my post.
1. what happened to the oil held in the country whilst the yanks were in control
2. what happened to the money the un released whilst the yanks were in control.

did they keep track of where billions of dollars went and to whom.