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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:35 am

Well, well, well. Turkish president Erdoğan has just returned from a visit to ... Qatar. I wonder what that was about.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:46 am

The Turkish secular press is reporting that Islamic State was expelled from eight villages in the Kurdish part of Iraq yesterday. Following bombing of IS positions by US planes, Kurdish peshmerga forces moved in to retake the villages, capturing a large amount of munitions. I suspect this will be the pattern of things to come now as, slowly but surely, IS is removed from Iraq, and hopefully also Syria.

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/duny ... uldu_.html
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:47 am

Tim Drayton wrote:Well, well, well. Turkish president Erdoğan has just returned from a visit to ... Qatar. I wonder what that was about.

This...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29223208

...but it ain't gonna happen.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:49 am

Amr Darrag, Muslim Brotherhood spokesman, is reported to have arrived in Istanbul and the other Muslim Brotherhood people who have been asked to leave Qatar are said to be on their way to Turkey, too.

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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:51 am

Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Well, well, well. Turkish president Erdoğan has just returned from a visit to ... Qatar. I wonder what that was about.

This...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29223208

...but it ain't gonna happen.


Why does he need to discuss that with the emir of Qatar?
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:55 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Well, well, well. Turkish president Erdoğan has just returned from a visit to ... Qatar. I wonder what that was about.

This...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29223208

...but it ain't gonna happen.


Why does he need to discuss that with the emir of Qatar?

Because Qatar and the Saudis are both bankrolling and directing specific groups.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:00 am

Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Well, well, well. Turkish president Erdoğan has just returned from a visit to ... Qatar. I wonder what that was about.

This...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29223208

...but it ain't gonna happen.


Why does he need to discuss that with the emir of Qatar?

Because Qatar and the Saudis are both bankrolling and directing specific groups.


You think they still are, despite their public statements to the contrary?
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:01 am

Tim Drayton wrote:You think they still are, despite their public statements to the contrary?

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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:17 am

Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:You think they still are, despite their public statements to the contrary?

:roll:


I think the schism between Saudi Arabia and Qatar following the coup in Egypt was telling, with Saudi supporting Sisi and Qatar supporting the Brotherhood. It suggests that Qatar is far more fervent in its support of radical Islamism. I think Saudi is less likely to be supporting Islamic State or aligned movements now, but I suspect that there remains a Turkey-Qatar axis, with both supporting Islamic State behind closed doors, but being forced to publicly pretend to be part of the coalition against it. I don't know how easy it is for them to go as far as funding Islamic State now, though.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:37 pm

The French air force is reported to have made its first strikes on Islamic State targets.
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