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[Lordo]

it takes one to know one my friend.

So you admit that you don't have an ounce of sense!

in just the same way as you do asshole.

[Lordo]

...if, if, if a lot of things happened differently, Lordo.

point is the agreement was unclear, and it required a great deal of trust toward Turkey, and her future intentions; think about it, it is no wonder that the population voted as it did. in any case the results prove that there are at least some portion of the population living under the occupation that did not want to agree with the regime, there are Cypriots in its north who were as unsure, about Turkey's Good Faith, as well.

there was no ifs and no buts rw. all was written and agreed. we had a chance to call terkey's bluff and the chance have been lost for the last time. what was given at that agreement will not be offered again. the chance has gone. now you have maras to bargain with. and i can see you boys will even lose that too.

[repulsewarrior]

why do you seem so sure of Turkey's omnipotence?

[Kikapu]

it takes one to know one my friend.

So you admit that you don't have an ounce of sense!

in just the same way as you do asshole.

No, because you are making an assumption about me, but stating a fact about yourself!

[Nikitas]

"why do you seem so sure of Turkey's omnipotence?" good question RW.

The attitude of some TCs here reminds me so much of the EOKA B apparatchnik in 1973. So sure that their way was the only way.

It takes but a slight, often overlooked, factor to bring down a house of cards.

[Viewpoint]

"why do you seem so sure of Turkey's omnipotence?" good question RW.

The attitude of some TCs here reminds me so much of the EOKA B apparatchnik in 1973. So sure that their way was the only way.

It takes but a slight, often overlooked, factor to bring down a house of cards.

How do you expect us to be Niki? to much has happened between the two sides, the is absolutely no trust between us, so everyone just digs in and displays even further demands and measure to ensure the other side has no room to do what they did in the past.....its the trust issue that has to be resolved.

[Nikitas]

Trust in the last resort is a matter of risk taking. There is never any guarantee in a deal that the other side will honor their word, but most people do, otherwise there would be no contracts and no agreements of any kind.

And one more thing, things have changed drastically in Cyprus since 1974. One positive outcome for the GC community from 1974 was that it acted like a crash course in political maturity. At some levels the RoC is a politically more mature society than any in the vicinity and in that comparison I include Italy. Just notice the different approach to the financial crisis between RoC and Greece and the difference should be obvious.

Maybe that is the reason Erdo is calling for a more active participation by Greece, he would like to have fellow clowns to dance with.

[Viewpoint]

Trust in the last resort is a matter of risk taking. There is never any guarantee in a deal that the other side will honor their word, but most people do, otherwise there would be no contracts and no agreements of any kind.

And one more thing, things have changed drastically in Cyprus since 1974. One positive outcome for the GC community from 1974 was that it acted like a crash course in political maturity. At some levels the RoC is a politically more mature society than any in the vicinity and in that comparison I include Italy. Just notice the different approach to the financial crisis between RoC and Greece and the difference should be obvious.

Maybe that is the reason Erdo is calling for a more active participation by Greece, he would like to have fellow clowns to dance with.

So basically you are saying we close our eyes and take a leap of faith? You may view yourselves in that manner but to us you have not changed one iota your ultimate goal still appears to be total control of the whole island with us TCs reduced to minority status in our own country.

If you dont trust someone would you go into business with them knowing full well it could cost you your future?

[repulsewarrior]

you/"you" can stand behind the Flag of Cyprus, where you can challenge the "Greeks" to stand with you, you can insist that Anastasiades, as President, represents the interests of Cypriots as Cypriots alone, and you can insist that a Greek Leader be found to represent a Greek Constituency, so that in unanimity both Communities as equals have something to present toward the Constitutional Reform the Republic needs.

Cyprus is not "Greek", vp, but neither can it be, "Turkish". Cyprus is Cypriot, first.

[Viewpoint]

you/"you" can stand behind the Flag of Cyprus, where you can challenge the "Greeks" to stand with you, you can insist that Anastasiades, as President, represents the interests of Cypriots as Cypriots alone, and you can insist that a Greek Leader be found to represent a Greek Constituency, so that in unanimity both Communities as equals have something to present toward the Constitutional Reform the Republic needs.

Cyprus is not "Greek", vp, but neither can it be, "Turkish". Cyprus is Cypriot, first.

But I did not elect your leader, we were removed from that equation 1963, our rights were stolen...so how do you expect me to stand behind your leader and shout I am a Cypriot?