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Re: Hannay Admits Annan Plan “Unwisely Generous” to the Turk

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:21 am

Demonax wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:the EU are using you as the sheep you are to block Turkeys EU path


Why doesn't Turkey call the EU's bluff then? A solution on the island will remove Cyprus as an obstacle to Turkish accession. It would mean countries like Germany and France would no longer be able to hide behind Cyprus.


Why should they? as I have said and have been proven right Turkey is not an EU country nor does it have to enter the EU, it just has to be seen to want to enter for now.

The EU is just you pawns in a games so they do not have to confront Turkey directly, blames it on the few thousand peasant donkeys and hey presto they are in the clear.

Why should Turkey trust you to unblock the EU path if a solution was found, you have renegged on everything you have signed to date whats to say you will not cry wolf yet again.


So you now think that Turkey is not solving the Cyprus issue in order to keep itself from joining the EU? That's brilliant, VP. :lol: :lol:


Look if Turkey wanted to join the EU it would have done it quite easily a long time ago, filling in the boxes to meet EU criteria is simple if Greece can do it so can Turkey. But do you see them scrambling to meet the demands of the EU, they are basically sticking up their middle finger at the EU and laughing, thats why your EU leverage is null and void. If there was a constant desire to enter the EU then you would be right, the Turkish nation has near enough forgotten about the EU and dont give a shit about entering, this is reality.

What I have said all along is that neither side desire want or need a solution thats why there hasnt been one all these years.

Now what can change this "desire" imo is gas/water, something is a brewing we have yet to smell it.
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Re: Hannay Admits Annan Plan “Unwisely Generous” to the Turk

Postby Kikapu » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:08 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Demonax wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Demonax wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:the EU are using you as the sheep you are to block Turkeys EU path


Why doesn't Turkey call the EU's bluff then? A solution on the island will remove Cyprus as an obstacle to Turkish accession. It would mean countries like Germany and France would no longer be able to hide behind Cyprus.


Why should they? as I have said and have been proven right Turkey is not an EU country nor does it have to enter the EU, it just has to be seen to want to enter for now.

The EU is just you pawns in a games so they do not have to confront Turkey directly, blames it on the few thousand peasant donkeys and hey presto they are in the clear.

Why should Turkey trust you to unblock the EU path if a solution was found, you have renegged on everything you have signed to date whats to say you will not cry wolf yet again.


So you now think that Turkey is not solving the Cyprus issue in order to keep itself from joining the EU? That's brilliant, VP. :lol: :lol:



Look if Turkey wanted to join the EU it would have done it quite easily a long time ago, filling in the boxes to meet EU criteria is simple if Greece can do it so can Turkey. But do you see them scrambling to meet the demands of the EU, they are basically sticking up their middle finger at the EU and laughing, thats why your EU leverage is null and void. If there was a constant desire to enter the EU then you would be right, the Turkish nation has near enough forgotten about the EU and dont give a shit about entering, this is reality.

What I have said all along is that neither side desire want or need a solution thats why there hasnt been one all these years.

Now what can change this "desire" imo is gas/water, something is a brewing we have yet to smell it.


Well, Gas does have a smell but water does not, and that's what Turkey is smelling too, the Gas. Eventually Turkey will cut a deal with the RoC over Gas to agree for a settlement if more Gas is found. That's when the "trnc" is going to smell Turkey's gas that the deal will benefit the RoC and Turkey and not the "trnc" and those living in it!
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Re: Hannay Admits Annan Plan “Unwisely Generous” to the Turk

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:49 pm

Your terminology coupled with your sarcastic comments leaves a lot to be desired but we will put that down to ignorance, the gas find will either make or break Cyprus. The vultures are a hovering.
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Re: Hannay Admits Annan Plan “Unwisely Generous” to the Turk

Postby Lordo » Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:36 pm

anybody with an ounce of sense can see that all the annan plan needed was a few more months of negotiations to iron out the differences and it would be solved. where there is a will there is a way. the problem with gcs and the pretend asshole here is that they dont want peace at all. they expect terkey to just walk away and hand over the tcs on a tepsi.

you really have the mentality of a 3 year old. when will you fakin grow up ffs.
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Re: Hannay Admits Annan Plan “Unwisely Generous” to the Turk

Postby Kikapu » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:03 pm

Lordo wrote:anybody with an ounce of sense can see that all the annan plan needed was a few more months of negotiations to iron out the differences and it would be solved. where there is a will there is a way. the problem with gcs and the pretend asshole here is that they dont want peace at all. they expect terkey to just walk away and hand over the tcs on a tepsi.

you really have the mentality of a 3 year old. when will you fakin grow up ffs.


Well, that rules you out for sure! :lol:
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Re: Hannay Admits Annan Plan “Unwisely Generous” to the Turk

Postby Lordo » Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:47 pm

it takes one to know one my friend.
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Re: Hannay Admits Annan Plan “Unwisely Generous” to the Turk

Postby Nikitas » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:35 pm

What the Annan plan needed was a few more MONTHS of negotiations, another Lordo deeply thought statement.

You are totally off side. The GC contingent at Burkenstok asked for a few HOURS and they were told to fuck off by Annan himself, and a few minutes later your sultan gave his famous statement to journalists, live.

Remember what he said? "We got everything we wanted without returning an inch of territory or removing a single soldier".

This is what the sultan regarded as success and many of you support this view.
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Re: Hannay Admits Annan Plan “Unwisely Generous” to the Turk

Postby Lordo » Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:52 pm

you should try taking your head out of your ass nikitamu. you must ne the only one from planet mars. less than 5 years the terkish army would have been out of cyprus except the 600 from the 1960 agreement. over 10s of thousands of gc would have returned to their homes in the north. guzelyurt, maras and countless villages would have been given back. 100,000 gcs would have returned to their homes most under the groc. even karpaz peninsula was offered but your great asshole leader refused so you dumb assholes did not vote yes to peace.

funny though cause you boys not accepting it and after 10 years the terkish army is still here and not one cm of land has been given back. you see even dengtass thanked you for saving the tcs for not accepting the plan. boy there are fools on this earth and there are total dumbasses but you are something else. then again you are not from here though, how is the weather over at planet mars.
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Re: Hannay Admits Annan Plan “Unwisely Generous” to the Turk

Postby Kikapu » Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:50 pm

Lordo wrote:it takes one to know one my friend.


So you admit that you don't have an ounce of sense! :lol:
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Re: Hannay Admits Annan Plan “Unwisely Generous” to the Turk

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:59 pm

...if, if, if a lot of things happened differently, Lordo.

point is the agreement was unclear, and it required a great deal of trust toward Turkey, and her future intentions; think about it, it is no wonder that the population voted as it did. in any case the results prove that there are at least some portion of the population living under the occupation that did not want to agree with the regime, there are Cypriots in its north who were as unsure, about Turkey's Good Faith, as well.
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