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Would you vote YES or NO for Scottish Independence?

Poll ended at Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:12 pm

YES
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NO
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56%
 
Total votes : 16

Re: YES or NO ?

Postby Lordo » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:39 pm

you mean psohos right.
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Re: YES or NO ?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:43 pm

erolz66 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote: Stop trolling with your own versions of what I was supposed to have said.


what you actually said is undeniable and I have quoted it for you over and over. It is not 'my version' it is your own actual word verbatim. Here it is for you one more time.

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Sotos, I explained that certain terms/names are offensive at different points in history/context (for example, the "N" word was still routinely used less than 20 years ago in the UK and now it is taboo).
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Despite your umpteen trolls and grandiose proclamations, you have consistently failed to disprove my statement above (despite its aside use as an example to other matters that were being discussed, hence why you are a troll). Are not various terms offensive at different times? Is the N word not taboo? Oh, and once again thanks for showing us how frequently it was/is used in the written form. :P :roll: You must be reeling it was/is used more routinely :wink: than comfort and taboo would allow.
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Re: YES or NO ?

Postby Lordo » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:49 pm

it is a question of timing love. come on enough already. when not what. you did say less than 20 years. you said what you said. you cannot get away from it.
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Re: YES or NO ?

Postby erolz66 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:52 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote: Stop trolling with your own versions of what I was supposed to have said.


what you actually said is undeniable and I have quoted it for you over and over. It is not 'my version' it is your own actual word verbatim. Here it is for you one more time.

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Sotos, I explained that certain terms/names are offensive at different points in history/context (for example, the "N" word was still routinely used less than 20 years ago in the UK and now it is taboo).
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Despite your umpteen trolls and grandiose proclamations, you have consistently failed to disprove my statement above. Is the N word not taboo?


The part of your statement that is untrue is that the CHANGE in the usage of this word happened from 1994 onwards. Yes the word is now taboo. Yes the word did not used to be taboo. That is all true. Your distortion, motivated by your prejudice and hatred of the UK is that this change occurred some time after 1994. The evidence that this change did NOT occur from 1994 onwards but in FACT considerably earlier is here

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This graph clearly shows when this change occurred. The change is dramatic and obvious and undeniable and it did NOT occur from 1994 or later.

That you can STILL try and insist that your statement was true because you said now the word is taboo and simply ignore the part you now want to pretend you never said is just yet MORE evidence of your classic behaviour on these forums.
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Re: YES or NO ?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:57 pm

As I have just edited further above to make it clearer, Lordo, my aside to Sotos which was sabotaged by erolz for several pages, is the reason why erolz can be regarded as a troll.

He continues to troll out a graph of how frequently the word is used in the written sphere ( a word that would be expected to be used more rarely in print after its taboo status) and pretends it can possibly be a means to disprove its routine use which has since become taboo. Idiocy and manic trolling desperation (to use his new PC, I guess).
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Re: YES or NO ?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:09 am

Having seen the hypocrisy of the "Better Together" standard for the United Kingdom - keeping Scotland under Enosis - something already denied to Cyprus as part of its Hellenic culture ... is it time for a referendum on whether the SBAs should be reunited with the RoC? Better Together for ALL the soil of Cyprus?

Well, sometimes Britain is just not so sure to whom the so-called Sovereign Base Areas "belong" to:

Cypriot media thoroughly enjoyed the predicament faced by the old colonial master. “Britannia waives the rules,” quipped the Cyprus Mail. “All of a sudden the Brits are full of respect for the Cyprus government and its sovereignty over all of Cyprus, including the bases.”


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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/o ... ase-cyprus
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Re: YES or NO ?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:17 am

A Half-caste arguing with a Cypriot.

Is it any wonder the Half-caste resorts to half truths, spin and downright lies?
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Re: YES or NO ?

Postby erolz66 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:40 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:He continues to troll out a graph of how frequently the word is used in the written sphere ( a word that would be expected to be used more rarely in print after its taboo status) and pretends it can possibly be a means to disprove its routine use which has since become taboo. Idiocy and manic trolling desperation (to use his new PC, I guess).


As I have said before, there simply is NO evidence I can present that you will ever concede shows the truth as to when the word nigger transitioned in the UK from acceptable to taboo is different from the period you claimed originally, because you simply have no interest at all in the reality of when this happened. Your only interest is defending your distortion of actual truth and attacking the persons who dares to challenge it.

GreekIslandGirl wrote:The N word in print was only tackled not long before people stopped using it in conversation, for example:


GreekIslandGirl wrote:a word that would be expected to be used more rarely in print after its taboo status
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Re: YES or NO ?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:28 am

erolz66 wrote:As I have said before, there simply is NO evidence I can present that you will ever concede shows the truth as to when the word nigger transitioned in the UK from acceptable to taboo is different from the period you claimed originally ...


Once again, I didn't make any precise statement on WHEN it became taboo (that's ONE of your errors) but said it was still being used at certain times (this being done despite it being taboo).

Also transitions to taboo usually occur over many decades and not one specific time point. In-between, words continue to be used and until they are phased out completely. Your graph proves this!

Your pathetic attempt at over-analyzing that graph was like watching someone trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Correlation is not causation. And the word (as your graph also showed) CONTINUED to be USED in print (and so, from what I know of speech and conversation such taboo words are used more frequently than in academic or news or fiction writing.)

I hope it will eventually dawn on you as to why you are simply trolling trying to find a way to disprove me through some ego-feeling that YOU must be right (hence, destructive passion). Alternatively, weighing up with some of your other posts, I am developing a strong impression that you are out to construct some negativity here against the average British person which simply does not exist. As I said, British people are not as stupid as you might hope, for convenient capitalizing. They are quite capable of evaluating such unsavory elements dispassionately.
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Re: YES or NO ?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:53 am

A simple lesson in taboo:

Because taboo words have the power to shock, they are often used in situations full of emotion such as in an argument, making love, playing sport, in pain or when one is under a lot of stress.
In addition, taboo words are often used amongst close groups of people to signal affiliation with that group. A group of friends may call each other wankers or jerks for example without any offense being given or taken. A stranger who joins this group and uses the same terms may well cause offense as they are trying to claim membership of the group to which they do not belong.
If a white person uses the word, nigger, it can be extremely offensive and yet some groups of black people will use it freely amongst themselves with no offense at all.
Context, of course, plays a major part in the use of taboo words. A group of people at a house party may well use taboo words amongst themselves without any restraint. If strangers or children were with the group then they would be likely to moderate their language. If the same group were in a church or perhaps in a job interview then they would almost certainly never use taboo words.
http://www.icaltefl.com/index.php/vocabulary/taboo-words.html

So even if a word is taboo, it can still be used. Conversations do not follow the rules of science or laws, but follow conventions and culture and context. They are not prescriptive in the UK nor in most of the free world. Perhaps under other regimes! Only an idiot would try and disprove the observation that people still used the N word up until a few decades ago. Not only was it used, it's still in use. But it is taboo. NOW!
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