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Ottoman girl and Turkish Cypriot

Postby insan » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:03 pm

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Do u have any ideas why the girl reffered as Ottoman and the man as TC?
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Re: Ottoman girl and Turkish Cypriot

Postby bill cobbett » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:37 pm

Oh, it's in Greek.

Here's an approx translation...

A really, really hot Ottoman Girl of the classiest most stunning sort finds herself in Luci... Luri ... You know', that village Thiefo comes from.

She goes to the Muhktar and says that she wants to bed every man in the village to cure them of their deviancy.

Muhktar goes down to the vast communal sheep pens of the village , where he knows he'll find all the men Of the village...

... But no one will take up the offer.
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Re: Ottoman girl and Turkish Cypriot

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:43 pm

From the article he is described as Mustafa Halil, a “26 year old Turk from the village of Artemis but currently residing at Melounda” and she is described as Hatipe Mehmetali, a 21 year old Ottoman from Melounda (municipality of Amohostos or Varosi if you prefer).

So I’d say that she was the TC.
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Re: Ottoman girl and Turkish Cypriot

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:45 pm

In the small article next to it someone embezzled 542 pounds from the Turkish Lyceum. (<- A kind of secondary school)

I'll bet that was Lordo and he then fled to nof London! :lol:
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Re: Ottoman girl and Turkish Cypriot

Postby insan » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:31 pm

You are funny Bill! :))) Ooops! Not you actually but your sense of humour! Ain't you forgot reading Greek? :D


Gr, thanks for the brief explanation... however it is still weird to me... there must be a reason of calling the slaughtered female as Ottoman girl... Does the article tells anything about the girl's family... and where the murder happened? At girl's home? Maybe the Ottoman meant the girl was a Turkish speaking but different origin...
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Re: Ottoman girl and Turkish Cypriot

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:48 pm

A little more info…

“The perpetrator went to her house whereby he asked if he was the father of the baby (she was 8 months pregnant) and when she said no he presented a knife with which he stabbed her in the neck”

It wasn’t unusual for our people to describe a TC as an Ottoman and a mainland Turk as a Turk.

What year is this?
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Re: Ottoman girl and Turkish Cypriot

Postby insan » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:16 pm

It's from 1955, GR... Elefteria newspaper of Cyprus...
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Re: Ottoman girl and Turkish Cypriot

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:47 am

It infers that they don't belong in Cyprus.. The man was not described as a Tc but a "tourkous"...

Where did you find this?
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Re: Ottoman girl and Turkish Cypriot

Postby insan » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:34 am

Oceanside50 wrote:It infers that they don't belong in Cyprus.. The man was not described as a Tc but a "tourkous"...

Where did you find this?



http://www.ccha-ahdr.info/items/show/1334

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Re: Ottoman girl and Turkish Cypriot

Postby Klik » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:41 am

insan wrote:It's from 1955, GR... Elefteria newspaper of Cyprus...


It makes perfect sense because the term "Turkish Cypriot" was coined by the British in the 1930s and wasn't really used in Cyprus until 1960 (officially, due to the Republic of Cyprus also being a British invention) and not until the late 70s by the public, after the 1974 invasion, following the decision to hold negotiations between the Greek and Turkish communities, which also didn't make sense as negotiations/discussions should have always been between Cyprus and Turkey.

The "Turkish Cypriots" were called Muslims, Ottomans, Turks or Turkophones. They were never called 'Cypriot'. Then again, the term Cypriot was not really used by most sides. Not Catholics, not Armenians, not Jews(yes, we had them too), not Turks... It was rather exclusive to the Greek population (until the other minorities auto-absorbed themselves into the Greek community)
The Ottomans didn't really identify as Cypriots until the British told them to in the 30s. But even that took around 20 years to become a thing. They identified as Turks/Ottomans. The Greeks identified as Greeks of course. There was no Cypriot identity to describe a multicultural society as it was rather easily assumed that Cyprus would eventually become a Greek province and Turkey didn't really care about Cyprus until the early 50s.
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