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[GreekIslandGirl]

You might very well be Middle Eastern but Cyprus is European and so are the natives.

[Get Real!]

You might very well be Middle Eastern but Cyprus is European and so are the natives.

You appreciate the work of scientists right?

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/inf ... en.1003316

[Sotos]

I made a similar comment yesterday then deleted it as I thought it mind offend insan. But most likely,the female victim was probably only referred to as "Ottoman" because it sounds less vulgar than "Turk" and they were showing some sympathy with her demise at the hands of the murderous Turk.

In what way is your comment "similar"? What Klik and Tim posted are facts. What you posted is just intentionally offensive My guess is that she was referred to as "Ottoman" because she wasn't Turkish... maybe she was Greek speaking Muslim.

[GreekIslandGirl]

You might very well be Middle Eastern but Cyprus is European and so are the natives.

You appreciate the work of scientists right?

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/inf ... en.1003316

Ignoring the fact they only looked at 12 Cypriots (and left out Greeks entirely to avoid showing the similarities better), their data shows Cypriots scatter in a group of their own nearer Spaniards (Spa) and Western Europeans (WEu). The fact that some Christians of the Levant also share European ancestry, similar to Cypriots, has already been explained by the researchers as due to an injection of European genes from visiting Crusaders. Therefore, the fact that some Christians of the Levant also have European ancestry does not preclude Cypriots from their European ancestry - but adds to it. Thus you have confirmed what I said above and what history relates.

[GreekIslandGirl]

I made a similar comment yesterday then deleted it as I thought it mind offend insan. But most likely,the female victim was probably only referred to as "Ottoman" because it sounds less vulgar than "Turk" and they were showing some sympathy with her demise at the hands of the murderous Turk.

In what way is your comment "similar"? What Klik and Tim posted are facts. What you posted is just intentionally offensive My guess is that she was referred to as "Ottoman" because she wasn't Turkish... maybe she was Greek speaking Muslim.

The 'similar' comment I made yesterday, was the one 'similar' to the one I (me, myself) made today and not 'similar' to what either Klik or Tim posted, otherwise I would have mentioned them by name. My comment was separate to theirs entirely. It is knowingly offensive (nowadays) and an observation of how times change and how acceptable terms at one point in time are no longer acceptable at other times or contexts.

BTW - what language is "Muslim"?

[insan]

Oracles, thanks for your senitiviveness of thinking not to offend me and your opinions... As i told u before, lately you sound very lovely and humane... i respect to your believes about Turks and others whether they are true or not or partly true or false according to my knowledge... when you think in a dialectic way you may find the answers of many unknowns if not everything... so please don't be afraid of questioning your believes and stereo-types which i think it's highly possible that you have some...


Would you like to read and learn about the first 69 years of Ottoman rule in Cyprus? Poligami between the Ottoman men and lonely women of Cyprus? Even there are some cases of stealing the wives of Christians of Cyprus...Maybe my firs or second generation grandma was a Christian lady of Cyprus... maybe your first or second generation grandpa was a muslim Turk... or a "genuine Turk" as one of the Cyprus' most famous historians refers... http://alaminos.org/english/history.shtm

How about the neo-muslims, neo-turks, neo-greeks, neo-cypriots? who were the offspring of poligamic relationships of ottoman men and christian ladies of Cyprus? and the converts...

http://books.google.com.cy/books?id=dsl ... ma&f=false

[GreekIslandGirl]

You might very well be Middle Eastern but Cyprus is European and so are the natives.

You appreciate the work of scientists right?

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/inf ... en.1003316

Ignoring the fact they only looked at 12 Cypriots (and left out Greeks entirely to avoid showing the similarities better), their data shows Cypriots scatter in a group of their own nearer Spaniards (Spa) and Western Europeans (WEu). The fact that some Christians of the Levant also share European ancestry, similar to Cypriots, has already been explained by the researchers as due to an injection of European genes from visiting Crusaders. Therefore, the fact that some Christians of the Levant also have European ancestry does not preclude Cypriots from their European ancestry - but adds to it. Thus you have confirmed what I said above and what history relates.

Of relevance to understanding the above, from your source:

... why Lebanese Christians also have European ancestry:

...the Crusader activity in the 11th–13th centuries CE introduced western European lineages into Lebanese Christians

[Get Real!]

I made a similar comment yesterday then deleted it as I thought it mind offend insan. But most likely,the female victim was probably only referred to as "Ottoman" because it sounds less vulgar than "Turk" and they were showing some sympathy with her demise at the hands of the murderous Turk.

What you posted is just intentionally offensive

Spot on!

[Get Real!]

That report pains you doesn't it Oracle?

[Sotos]

For those who may be wondering…

The “Greek” language had nothing to do with Greece for there was no Greece when this language was taking shape, but it was an evolution of Phoenician + Cypriot + other influences, that the Eastern Roman Empire eventually adopted.

That is why we speak “Greek” (<- contemporary label) here in Cyprus and certainly not because “Greeks” arrived here!

The Cypriots have a perfect DNA match with people in the Lebanon.

Anthropologists keep telling us that ancient Man made his way through Africa up to the Levant and then onto Cyprus and certainly not the other way round that these fools want us to believe!

The closeness of Cyprus to the Levant makes perfect sense!

The history of the Phoenicians is one of UNISON between the Levant and Cyprus, yet we still have people today driveling on about some guy in a “Greek” boat who came to our shores selling pots and garter belts!

GR, you are very very confused You are confusing a theory about how the Greek ALPHABET was created (borrowing elements from the Phoenician alphabet) with the Greek LANGUAGE which existed long before the Greek Alphabet. Greek is a European language and has nothing to do with the Phoenician language which is a Semitic language similar to Hebrew. The Phoenicians were a civilization less ancient than the Greeks and they came to Cyprus a bit after the Greeks. They settled mostly on the eastern part of the island (Kition). You are also confused about the time of when things happened. The "ancient man that made his way through Africa" is something that happened more than 50.000 years ago. Humans have been inhabiting mainland Europe for at least 40 thousands years... much earlier than the human settlements found in Cyprus. And those prehistoric people were not Greek or Cypriot or English since the concept of ethnicity or nation didn't exist back then. I am not going to waste more time with your nonsense ... but maybe you should educate yourself and stop exhibiting your ignorance