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[repulsewarrior]

Turkey does not respect the fact that Cyprus has one of the oldest Histories in the World. it is neither "Greek" or "Turkish", and although it remained within the Ottoman empire (as a backwater ignored, i might add) for a few hundred years, it does not "belong" to them (or should i say, "them", since we are talking about Ottoman wanna be(s)). Turkey tarnishes her own image, because she can do much better, for herself, and Humanity (Mankind). Cyprus exists, and existed.

[Lordo]

however the question remains. what would have happened after the gc opposition is wiped out. what was the plan. was it to have tea and scones with our dengtash.

[Oceanside50]

Again...the opposition to the coup would have eventually wiped the coupist out. There was from the first day strong resistance to the junta....

[Lordo]

oceanside that may be true or not. considering the junta was in power for 7 years and greece had no chance of getting rid of them, your assumption is not very reassuring. however it does not answer the question as to what would happen to the tcs especially now that we know they had plans to wipe out the tcs in 45 minutes.

[Oceanside50]

oceanside that may be true or not. considering the junta was in power for 7 years and greece had no chance of getting rid of them, your assumption is not very reassuring. however it does not answer the question as to what would happen to the tcs especially now that we know they had plans to wipe out the tcs in 45 minutes.

Who's they?....after the ethnic problems of 64 and 67, Makarios realized what was coming next, which was an invasion by Turkey.. Makarios in the years preceding the invasion was seen by the vast majority of Gc, namely 95% of them, as the protector of the Tc. There after his letter to the junta in the spring of 74 asking them to remove their officers, his way of thinking continued after the invasion with his speech at the UN..The vast majority of Gc knew that a coup or more conflicts with the Tc would lead to A justification for Turkey to bomb or invade.

[Get Real!]

Again...the opposition to the coup would have eventually wiped the coupist out. There was from the first day strong resistance to the junta....

You’re a funny one…

[Lordo]

oceanside that may be true or not. considering the junta was in power for 7 years and greece had no chance of getting rid of them, your assumption is not very reassuring. however it does not answer the question as to what would happen to the tcs especially now that we know they had plans to wipe out the tcs in 45 minutes.

Who's they?....after the ethnic problems of 64 and 67, Makarios realized what was coming next, which was an invasion by Turkey.. Makarios in the years preceding the invasion was seen by the vast majority of Gc, namely 95% of them, as the protector of the Tc. There after his letter to the junta in the spring of 74 asking them to remove their officers, his way of thinking continued after the invasion with his speech at the UN..The vast majority of Gc knew that a coup or more conflicts with the Tc would lead to A justification for Turkey to bomb or invade.

i would like to see a single piece of evidence that magarios actually said he was against enosis. your thinking that he did not want enosis with junta in power is totally false. junta tried to kill him 4 times before 1974 and yet he only asked them to remove their officers. does that really make sense. as the president should he not ordered them out. in reality the fact is magarios never gave up enosis till the day he died. he just wanted to drive the tcs out rather then kill them which was samsons preferred method.

[Nikitas]

"saving the cypriots from the coup " you mean the way Ecevit put it in his interview with Greek newspaper Eleftherotypia:

"if only they had agreed to our proposal in Geneva we would not have had Attila II in which we killed 4500 people". Some saving of Greeks that was!

Neither motherland cares for the indigenous population. That is what I extract from the facts.

As Ocenaside above says, the officer corp of the NG was mainlanders (because that is what the Americans wanted, in their anticommunist psychosis) but the men were GC. It was a matter of time before revolt would occur. Even EOKA B' operatives were showing sings of rebellion by day 5 of the coup, refusing to turn on relatives who were leftists or Makarios supporters. There are incidents in my close family, so I have first hand knowledge.

[Oceanside50]

oceanside that may be true or not. considering the junta was in power for 7 years and greece had no chance of getting rid of them, your assumption is not very reassuring. however it does not answer the question as to what would happen to the tcs especially now that we know they had plans to wipe out the tcs in 45 minutes.

Who's they?....after the ethnic problems of 64 and 67, Makarios realized what was coming next, which was an invasion by Turkey.. Makarios in the years preceding the invasion was seen by the vast majority of Gc, namely 95% of them, as the protector of the Tc. There after his letter to the junta in the spring of 74 asking them to remove their officers, his way of thinking continued after the invasion with his speech at the UN..The vast majority of Gc knew that a coup or more conflicts with the Tc would lead to A justification for Turkey to bomb or invade.

i would like to see a single piece of evidence that magarios actually said he was against enosis. your thinking that he did not want enosis with junta in power is totally false. junta tried to kill him 4 times before 1974 and yet he only asked them to remove their officers. does that really make sense. as the president should he not ordered them out. in reality the fact is magarios never gave up enosis till the day he died. he just wanted to drive the tcs out rather then kill them which was samsons preferred method.

Is that what the Tc think?

[Lordo]

facts speak for themselves. fact is even after 74 when magarios attended a meeting one of his supporters could be heard in the crowd shouting "ohi enosis". when magarios was asked about his suporter and what he was shouting he explained that this fellow was not saying "ohi ensosis" it was "ohi anohi".

surely there must be one piece of evidence where he actually says he is against enosis. its a bit like saying hitler at one point stopped hating the jews. this mind set does not change often. and when it does it is made obvious.