Cyprus-Forum.com

[Lordo]

erdogan has won the elections in terkey. what does that mean to us though.

[kurupetos]

I am very happy Erdo got elected. It makes things simpler for all of us.

[Get Real!]

erdogan has won the elections in terkey. what does that mean to us though.

More of the same is all it can possibly mean…

[bill cobbett]

erdogan has won the elections in terkey. what does that mean to us though.

Well, let's see... what was it you lot up there told that nice Mr Erdogan...???

To go "Asihktir" wasn't it... ???

... and he responded by calling you all a loada Parasites.

So, let's be honest Freako, doesn't look too encouraging, does it...???

[repulsewarrior]

I am very happy Erdo got elected. It makes things simpler for all of us.

yes, whatever the fight, it will be for all, or nothing, and frankly i think in that game Cyprus will win. let's not forget Wikkileaks, that said a lot. and he has not changed,if anything Erdogan's Turkey will implode, (it is a matter of time), in any case it cannot grow forever; i think he is not prepared for failure, when he crashes his Legacy will burn with him. he may not be so great, fewer voted, and fewer voted for him than expected, it is that the opposition is so poor (that too, cannot remain the same forever). still, he has not won the "new Turkey" he is playing for, only the chance to gain control of the Legislature in 2015, more popcorn, it reminds me, i'm needing.

Perhaps no case better captures the events of those days than a series of incidents that unfolded on the hapless Kurdish parliamentarian, Hasan Hayri, around this time in Ankara, Turkey. Here was a Kurd who had supported the Turkish leader in the emerging state by throwing in his own considerable weight behind the new experiment called the Turkish Republic, the expressed home of two peoples in those early years. He had complete faith in the Turkish leader and believed that the salvation of the Kurds was with the Turks.

Ataturk, whose name means father of Turks in Turkish — a man who thought highly of himself and accepted the title without a blush and insisted that the children of Kurds call him their father too ó one day asked Hasan Hayri to wear his traditional Kurdish attire to the Assembly and address its members on the topic of unity between the Kurds and the Turks. He did. The event was noted by the foreign dignitaries who were intently following the pronouncements of the Kurdish leaders for signs of comity between the two peoples of the new republic. A few days later, Ataturk asked him to send a telegraph to Lord Curzon, the chief European negotiator in Lausanne, to express his support for the position of the Kurdish emissary, Ismet Inonu, who was insisting that the Kurds did not want a country and were rather happy to be with the Turks in newly declared republic. That too was done.

But after the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne and the acceptance of Turkey into the community of nations, Ataturk’s cronies arrested Hasan Hayri and accused him of treason. He was charged with engaging in blatant Kurdish nationalism for wearing Kurdish clothes. He protested by saying that Ataturk had asked him to wear them. His objections were of no avail. Hasan Hayri was condemned to death by hanging. As is customary in places where this act is still in practice, he was asked to state his last wishes. Hasan Hayri had finally learned the lesson of his life. But it was too late. He told the Turkish scribbler to write, “I want my grave to be in a place where the Kurds can walk by and spit on me because of my betrayal of them.”

Before a ditch became a grave for Hasan Hayri, Ataturk began to glorify the Turkish race and declared one Turk equal to the world. The Kurdish language was banned. The Kurdish culture was prohibited. The Kurds were told they were really not Kurds but mountain Turks who descended from their Asiatic Turkish ancestors — but somehow lost their Asiatic features in the Middle East — and now should come to the fold as lost tribes. A nation was asked to surrender itself not just for a time, but for perpetuity. The Kurds were asked to dig their own grave for the sake of a man who adopted the name their father — I don’t know if the word tough love was invented by then, but if it wasn’t, this surely was the time to coin it. Armenians had been subjected to genocide. The Nazis had not yet put their undesirables into the gas ovens. Kurds were to face a similar death not as brutal perhaps, but with the same end in mind.
http://kurdistan.org/work/speeches/the- ... f-liberty/

...the phrase, "ethnic cleansing" comes to mind, like in Bosnia where it was coined, Cyprus suffered this madness before that. and what was, (and is,) the "Turkish" way has not changed, (whether "Turks" use transference in their debate against "Greeks" (or other Christians) or not is another subject), they cannot see beyond a "Nation", or beyond the "Nation-State" because it suits "them".

...in a strange way this is all hopeful; you know, actions and reactions. it means the Greek Flag and the Turkish Flag will not fly higher in Cyprus, because this issue has been raised: there is a Cypriot Flag (and the People Greek and Turkish are presently split 50-50, for, it). Erdogan, if he thinks the Turkish Flag is worth the whole world, (never mind in Cyprus), internally, in any of his 'Foreign Affairs' with any, like the Alevi, Kurds, Armenians, and the Christians, however they are classified in Turkey, has a big problem as a neo-ottoman, or as a "Turk", because there are Turks, and they exist as Turks, and there are Cypriots, and they exist as Cypriots, his insults will make these People make him understand (and the rest of the political elite) this as a fact, and his resistance will lead him to that conclusion sooner (or to his utter destruction).

[kurupetos]

^^Interesting info. Thanks, RW.

[Lordo]

erdogan has won the elections in terkey. what does that mean to us though.

Well, let's see... what was it you lot up there told that nice Mr Erdogan...???

To go "Asihktir" wasn't it... ???

... and he responded by calling you all a loada Parasites.

So, let's be honest Freako, doesn't look too encouraging, does it...???

so long as millions of terkish liras continue to flow we thank the lovely roc for making it possible. i hope you dont think we are not thankful, we are onest.

[kurupetos]

erdogan has won the elections in terkey. what does that mean to us though.

Well, let's see... what was it you lot up there told that nice Mr Erdogan...???

To go "Asihktir" wasn't it... ???

... and he responded by calling you all a loada Parasites.

So, let's be honest Freako, doesn't look too encouraging, does it...???

so long as millions of terkish liras continue to flow we thank the lovely roc for making it possible. i hope you dont think we are not thankful, we are onest.

No, you are illiterate.

[repulsewarrior]

and you kurupetos are an idiot; grasping at straws.

...is this the first time you have seen the word, "terkey", on the page? who else spells it so consistently that way; Lordo is more likely a better Cypriot, than you.

@bill, to keep the record straight, i think Erdogan called them, parasites, (or servant-slaves), long before the unrest that led to the "Asihktir".

[kurupetos]

and you kurupetos are an idiot; grasping at straws.

...is this the first time you have seen the word, "terkey", on the page? who else spells it so consistently that way; Lordo is more likely a better Cypriot, than you.

@bill, to keep the record straight, i think Erdogan called them, parasites, (or servant-slaves), long before the unrest that led to the "Asihktir".

No, I am just having a good time reading your stupid manishesto... and Lordo's drivel...

Lordo and you cannot be better Cypriots than me, simply because you are not Cypriots.